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02-22-2007, 12:22 PM
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5CD - Calling with AAup ?
Hi Guys, This is a common situation that I'm faced with at fixed limit. I'm a table with generally solid tight players, though one or two of them like to call raises on flush or open-straight draws.
I'm dealt AA77x in mid position. I make an open-raise. I get called from maybe OTB and the SB. SB draws 1. I draw 1. OTB draws 3. Scenario 1: SB bets out. Would you call? Are you beat? Scenario 2: SB Checks, I Check, OTB bets out. Would you call? Are you beat? Look forward to your thoughts. 
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02-22-2007, 12:34 PM
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Re: 5CD - Calling with AAup ?
Need reads on each player but if OTB bets OTB bets i might not overcall agianst 2 unknowns. Oftne you'll have the best hand but against 2 solid players they need a good hand to call after the draw.
Honestly I'd look at my notes right away and see what these guys bet and call with. A bet OOP means a strong hand, unless he's not as solid as you think. They wouldn't flat call with trips, but they may have a medium 2 pair, and OTB may have caught kings up or smaller aces up. If they're drawing to a flush or straigt and they're weak passive then yes fold (they've filled up), but it's your job to decide that if they are that kind of player.
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#4
02-22-2007, 05:40 PM
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Re: 5CD - Calling with AAup ?
SB d1, Hero d1 (AA-up), Button d3 - Aggressor was Hero.
[ QUOTE ] Scenario 1: SB bets out. Would you call? Are you beat? [/ QUOTE ] I dont expect SB to beat me often enough to justify folding, thats for sure. So i'd call [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Given that i raised (he's called 1.5SBs ) i'd (partially) discount the chance of a draw. It leaves trips + 2pr for him to probably have, 2prs more likely because he didnt 3-bet. So if he improved, he wins, but those are longshot improvements, and he still has <AA77 way often enough to call. The button is of little concern to me, he's drawing so thin. We have two aces, so he's got KK probably, and a 2-outer. So the button has only 1 in 8 chance of competing in this hand, and it will be real obvious when he hits. Give him the chance to overcall if he makes kings-up though! [ QUOTE ] Scenario 2: SB Checks, I Check, OTB bets out. Would you call? Are you beat? Look forward to your thoughts. [/ QUOTE ] If the button bets after we check it to him, i probably barf a little in my mouth. It looks really bad for us. Why would he bet, after drawing 3 versus two 1-draws? He'd surely check down KK? Does he think kings up is good enough to bet? Or KKK>? I guess if SB folded, we would be getting 4:1 to call...thats alot for when we have AA77 and think he was drawing to KK. So I think you gotta call, as it wont ALWAYS be KKK, and you beat everything else. However, I wouldnt prefer to check. Please value bet these rivers. SB and OTB both are likely to make 2nd best hands. Often, they will call your bet with 2prs, but if you check to them, they just check it down. You don't have to call if you get reraised. Its alot stronger of villain to raise you than to simply bet if u check to him. So i find it easier to fold if he raises my lead-out.
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02-22-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: 5CD - Calling with AAup ?
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Scenario 1: SB bets out. Would you call? Are you beat? [/ QUOTE ] Depends. I could probably find a fold against the right opponents, but I generally call. Bet hand 2. Re-evaluate if raised.
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02-22-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: 5CD - Calling with AAup ?
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[ QUOTE ] Scenario 1: SB bets out. Would you call? Are you beat? [/ QUOTE ] Depends. I could probably find a fold against the right opponents, but I generally call. Bet hand 2. Re-evaluate if raised. [/ QUOTE ]
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