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Big Poppa Smurf · #1 02-22-2007, 02:55 AM

Villain is kind of nitty, but not quite a nit.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
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Stack Sizes
BB: $8.65
UTG: $26.30
MP: $28.85
CO: $31.35
Hero (BTN): $31.55
SB: $27.35

Preflop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.35, 6 players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.10, SB calls $1, BB folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.55, 3 players)
SB bets $3, UTG folds, Hero calls $3

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($9.55, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($9.55, 2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $8

Shaqalicious · #2 02-22-2007, 03:03 AM

Meh, I don't like raising this river. You underrepped your hand but paired boards = bad news.

Big Poppa Smurf · #3 02-22-2007, 03:06 AM

shaq,

what do you put him on then? saying something like "paired boards = bad news" doesn't even really mean anything.

Shaqalicious · #4 02-22-2007, 03:17 AM

Stats would help. If he's nitty, I don't know what he's donking at the river with that you beat since you haven't shown any post-flop aggression. 66-99 possibly, maybe A10. What do you do if he pushes over the top of you?

I don't hate the river raise, but often times when I do this I've found it to be some slowplayed monster and I end up hating myself for raising with a single pair.

Gelford · #5 02-22-2007, 03:46 AM

What is your image ?

Actually donkbets usually mean weakness, so your line is not bad, allthough if you have been playing a bit on the wild side, and you suspect he has a little something, then raising the flop is good.

Quite read dependent as always, but if you are doing this to practice potcontrol, then I am disaggreeing with you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Supjack · #6 02-22-2007, 03:47 AM

Raise the flop

Bet or check the turn

call or bet river ... Don't raise it

Big Poppa Smurf · #7 02-22-2007, 01:03 PM

Gelford,

On the flop I put him on either a small set or something like AT-JT, maybe AA-KK as well (but not too often). I also don't think he'll put in too much more money or will maybe fold the flop with tp if I raise.

So once he checks the turn I doubt he's trying to stack-a-donk, and I thought I could get more money in on the river if I checked than if I bet now. Then the river hits and he vb's his ten, and I min-raise since it looks donkish as hell and he can't fold a ten here.

I READ SOULS

and whoever said stats would help - you are wrong, stats are not reads and they really don't help with postflop play that much unless they are supplemented with reads.

VPIP100 · #8 02-22-2007, 01:04 PM

If you know he is going to call a raise with a worse hand, why don't you raise bigger?

eternal_ · #9 02-22-2007, 01:14 PM

Raise flop or bet turn.
And what's wrong with a raise at the river? I would raise more here, could get some more value from hands. Wouldn't be worried about the board pairing.

Big Poppa Smurf · #10 02-22-2007, 01:18 PM

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If you know he is going to call a raise with a worse hand, why don't you raise bigger?

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If I make a big raise, I'm pretty sure he would fold top pair. The min-raise is super donky especially with the paired river and thus he can't fold to it.