The Well - What is 7x6

[DeNutza]

Hey 42, we have played a fair amount of hands together the last few years.
You know me as AnteUp.

My first year, you crushed me heads-up for about 5-8k, then I finally stopped
playing you HU.

Here are some of my observations:

I believe you were a huge winner at heads up when the blinds were backwards.
Your probably still better than me with the new blinds, but my guess is your win
rate has dramatically slowed down. The players 1-2 years ago were also much worse,
which accompanied by your huge hu win rate, allowed you to play less than
optimally 4-5 handed, particularly playing too many hands outside your blinds.

Ive since noticed you have adjusted this part of your game as well now playing
much more of a normal game 4-5 handed...

I dont know how honest you want to be on your strategy, in particular a counter,
and I certainly dont want to give too much away on how I approach LAG players,
but im sure there is a ton I could learn from you.

Have you noticed the toughness of opponents increasing lately since the new bill passed?
I had my first losing month in Decemember...Granted I wasnt focusing, was multi-tabling
too much, and generally playing bad...Whats weird is I think I could play a B game in
the past and win, but now I feel like I cant let anything slip and must play near
perfect fundamental poker....A lot of players play somewhat like you now and can
give me fits if I try to out-agg them (For example JimmysPlunky, El Valiente).
All in all, I see the game has been drying up, and have just been happy to grind
out 10k a month in Jan/Feb.

[DeNutza]

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My first year, you crushed me heads-up for about 5-8k...

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Actually I may be wrong on this part...Its hard to say
with PokerTracker, but I think most of your $ came
from 3-5 handed, which strenghtens JV's observations
about why aggression is so important in big pots
with 3 players seeing the flop.

[what is 7x6]

Denutza,

Yes, the change in the blind structure has definitely thrown me off a little bit, it took me a bit of time to adjust to it. I also agree that the players are a little better these days, but not all of them.

The thing about the new type of aggro players you mention, goes hand in hand with alot of what i have been saying. There is a fine line between good agression and flat out senseless over the top aggression. The game can hide bad aggression for a while. Many of these players simply play badly, and run well at times, as is the case often in omaha.

The thing to look for is if they keep getting very lucky *after* they are putting in all these bets vs you, and how much of a dog they were, or if they put them in after they hit and you are never sure where you stand. There is a huge difference. Also, never confuse getting lucky with playing badly. They might happen at the same time, but the two are not the same thing.

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[Big Dave D]

I think that what is hurting the SH handed guys more is that the Stars game is often now FR, and people like EL V and Jimmy, whilst fearsome SH, are just fish bait to a nut peddler like Beef in a ten handed game. Which is good news for me cos I'm of the same ilk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I don't know if its a coincidence, but I havent seen 7x6 in a long time either, so it may be he is chosing not to play FR?

gl

BDD

[shaundeeb]

Obv FR is way better for fish as well as people learning the game i.e. myself. Some can argue that I am the fish, I am in most games try to leave those ones quickly.

FR keeps you from making soo many thin decisions because your starting hands are soo much stronger. Also, tends to keep people from raising non nut hands therefore pots stay smaller per amount each person puts in. So fish lose it slower and I think I can play with most pros FR because they may be pushing the marginal spots against others but vs me they usually have the worst of it onces mutlibets go in.

[DeNutza]

I have EL V down as a winner...But then again he won
alot from me when I was playing extrememly bad in Dec/Jan.
On the other hand, Jimmy just plays so bad, I have
no clue where that dude gets his dough. Yes 42, I
can differentiate between good-agg and bad-agg.
In fact Ive complimented you a # of times in chat,
and had a few conversations with posters here on
your style.


The thing with 42, is he used to just sit down in the
30-60 game all day and wait for someone...Maybe
hes working full time now, or maybe its just dead now.
Hopefully things pick back up if players figure out a
way to deposit again.

FR is nowwhere near as profitable as short. There really
isnt any reason for a SH player to switch. There will
always be holdem players that jump over time to time to
play some SH omaha.

Whats really surprising me about this thread, is how
42 is willing to answer "almost all", yet I really havent
seen any questions that get to the meat. There is no coincidence
he mentions ArtOfAce and Sirens as two
of the tougher players.

[shaundeeb]

guys I think it's out of line to talk about players and how bad they are and some reasons why. Compliments is fine byt defining the fish is bad.

[cero_z]

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he mentions ArtOfAce and Sirens as two
of the tougher players.

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IMO, you are also in that category.

[Big Dave D]

I don't think its a question of switching, I think its a question of game availability. The SH action is just so much less common now..the games just fill up and very quickly become FR. I think the days of the SH experts sitting around waiting for holdem donks or bad SH players (like me) to sit with them are on the wane. And seemingly some of them cannot "tuck it in" in a FR situation. No one playing 40%+ of his hands FR can be a sustainable winner, no matter how skilled he is post flop.

gl

bdd

[what is 7x6]

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I think that what is hurting the SH handed guys more is that the Stars game is often now FR, and people like EL V and Jimmy, whilst fearsome SH, are just fish bait to a nut peddler like Beef in a ten handed game. Which is good news for me cos I'm of the same ilk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I don't know if its a coincidence, but I havent seen 7x6 in a long time either, so it may be he is chosing not to play FR?

gl

BDD

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It is not that i am not choosing to play FR, it is actually that my online BR is non-existent since neteller went down. The way i play, there is tremendous variance. I dont have enough on to play the way i play comfortably. It is not easy for me to do WU or MG since i am busy at work all day (except when i post here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) and the ease and convenience of the online payment processers was essential for me.

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