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Is this a good time to c/f KK?
Villain is 12/9 over a good sample, and since the main pot is protected I doubt he is ever going to bluff here.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> SB ($92.22) Hero ($204) UTG ($281.60) <font color="#C00000">MP ($382.50)</font> <font color="#C00000">Button ($28.40)</font> Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, MP calls $24, Button calls $28.40 (All-In). Flop: ($101.40) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font> <font color="black">Hero ??? |
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
Isn't this an easy bet?
I don't understand your logic at all. |
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
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Isn't this an easy bet? I don't understand your logic at all. [/ QUOTE ] It's not really that complicated. This player is extremely tight, and has called a 4x reraise. His range is likely 88+/AK, and he might even fold out something like 88/99/AK. Of his range, I'm only beating QQ. I do not have to worry about being bluffed as there is another player all in who must be beaten to win the main pot, and there is not yet a sidepot to play for. My only real problem with check folding is he might bet QQ if I check and I'll end up folding the best hand. Although QQ still is 25% to win here so I'm not in great shape against anything he could have, and I'm drawing to two outs pretty often. Clearer now? |
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
Yeah I guess.
I tend to find that people are idiosyncratic with the types of hands they play preflop, so I wouldn't necessarily agree with you about his range. I'd bet to fold out/extract value hands like AK, AQ, AJ, 99, QQ. Which is not me saying that I'm right, that's just how I approach a spot like this right now. I'll be interested to see a discussion on this hand unfold. |
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
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It's not really that complicated. This player is extremely tight, and has called a 4x reraise. His range is likely 88+/AK, and he might even fold out something like 88/99/AK. Of his range, I'm only beating QQ. I do not have to worry about being bluffed as there is another player all in who must be beaten to win the main pot, and there is not yet a sidepot to play for. My only real problem with check folding is he might bet QQ if I check and I'll end up folding the best hand. Although QQ still is 25% to win here so I'm not in great shape against anything he could have, and I'm drawing to two outs pretty often. Clearer now? [/ QUOTE ] This is a tough spot...because the only hands you really beat against a guy like this are QQ/AK. If you don't think he'll fire w/ AK here...C/F might be ok. Good/bad news is you'll get to see whether you were right. What about making a smallish 1/2 pot lead? He'll almost surely fold AK...probably just call w/ QQ...and hopefully raise w/ a set. Although, that's probably being too optimistic. The more I think about it...the less I like this spot. Interesting hand. |
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
Bump.
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
Just bet and get it all in. Even really tight players make crazy moves, if he called and hit a set ok, he got pretty lucky, move along. This really looks like QQ or JJ to me, maybbee AK. Pray its QQ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
We think villain fold 22-77 preflop?
Very interesting hand, tough tough spot. Looking forward to some reflected posts. I'm not sure 22-77 is not part of villains range. |
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
Here is a very similar hand I posted where I think check folding is okay, although leading was prefered by by the other posters.
In your hand I'm betting to get all in becuase - We only have 100bb's - QQ will pay you and this player might fold TT preflop. - I think AA is more likey to 4 bet preflop with the short player behind him. |
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Re: Is this a good time to c/f KK?
Ok.
I bet $50 in the actual hand. He raises to $150. ???? |
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