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Old 02-17-2007, 05:55 PM
Instatilt Instatilt is offline
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Default OEST on turn, OOP

Villain is 44/7/4 over 50ish hands.
How do you guys play these draws OOP, I keep getting this wrong.... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($302.12)
Button ($211)
SB ($411)
BB ($200)
Hero ($211.58)
MP ($480.79)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, MP calls $14.

Turn: ($47) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $33</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $75</font>, Hero calls $42.

River: ($197) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $211.58 (All-In), MP calls $114.58.

Final Pot: $523.16
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Old 02-17-2007, 05:58 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: OEST on turn, OOP

Looks fine, sometimes I c/c the turn. He gave you good odds though with his (essentially) minraise. What's the problem?
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: OEST on turn, OOP

Im thinking i dont have odds really, are all my outs good if he miniraises me here?
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: OEST on turn, OOP

Well his minraise on the turn usually isn't a flush draw so yes I think all your straight outs are good
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: OEST on turn, OOP

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Im thinking i dont have odds really, are all my outs good if he miniraises me here?

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You're getting over 3.5:1. It's very unlikely that he has a FD, so you have 8 basically clean outs. Also unlikely that a J or T is an out, so you don't have pot odds. But as he will almost always call a river push you definitively have the implied odds.
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