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Old 02-17-2007, 01:09 PM
b-komplex b-komplex is offline
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Default $10 folding off a big stack

After amassing 8000 chips in the first 30 minutes of the Stars $10/360 I went card dead for a while and then managed to donk off most of my stack within a couple orbits. Despite my stack I hadn't been getting out of line and until the following nobody had been playing back at me. I was steaming [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] by the end of this sequence. Am I playing too tenatively or is this just standard variance catching up to me..

HAND 1
Villain here is 18/10. I considered looking him up but I thought better of it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t2800)
CO (t4045)
Button (t2488)
SB (t2045)
BB (t2265)
UTG (t6415)
UTG+1 (t3140)
Hero (t7700)
MP2 (t2255)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t450, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1125) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t600</font>, Hero calls t600.

Turn: (t2325) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1438 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3763

HAND 2
Villain just moved to the table no reads

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t2800)
MP2 (t4270)
MP3 (t3763)
CO (t1970)
Button (t2040)
SB (t6265)
BB (t3140)
Hero (t6650)
UTG+1 (t2255)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, BB calls t300.

Flop: (t975) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, BB calls t600.

Turn: (t2175) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1050</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3225

HAND 3
BB has been really tight 10VPIP. I thought this was close but I knew I was way behind vs. his range.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t2800)
UTG (t3470)
UTG+1 (t3763)
MP1 (t2195)
MP2 (t2040)
MP3 (t6640)
CO (t4190)
Hero (t5350)
SB (t2705)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t3000</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3700

HAND 4
Same villain as in Hand 2 one orbit later - I'm really frustrated by this point...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t2600)
MP1 (t4270)
MP2 (t2263)
MP3 (t3395)
CO (t1740)
Button (t6640)
SB (t4590)
Hero (t4750)
UTG (t2905)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, SB calls t600.

Flop: (t1600) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t1600) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800.

River: (t3200) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1600</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t4800
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:32 PM
shaundeeb shaundeeb is offline
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Default Re: $10 folding off a big stack

#1
If I check that flop it's usully to c/r once you get to the turn you def call he could be doing this with worse hands and even vs a K you have 6 outs most of the time.

#2 totally standard

#3 I don't like the raise/fold line because they have 14x and anything I open in this spot I am planning on calling a shove.

#4 if you are going to raise PF you need to c-bet flop I don't think the 4x is nec people are going to limp/fold or limp/call pretty much the same hands to 3x or 4x in SB in my experiences so the smaller the pot is when you have intiative the better your position advantage helps you.
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