New Bellagio NL Rule - The Betting Line

[hamsamich]

FWIW I like the bet line rule. If I am seated at a table that has one I just play as if it is in use. If I see action on a hand that warrants, I will ask the dealer to confirm.
I will admit to having sort of selfish reason fot this though. I play at Borgata, where as anyone who has ever played there can tell you, they have the WORST chips in any casino in Amercia. They are very difficult to cut because of the 'magnetic' quality they have (which from what I understand is the RFID in them but I have never been able to confirm for sure). Having some extra room to work with to cut out calls and raises without some jerk jumping out of his seat to have the floor come over and commit your entire stack because your chips crossed the imaginary line in front of your cards is very helpful.

[PeteN]

MGM has had this in place for a long time

[atomicsoda]

[ QUOTE ]
So I was playing Bellagio 5-10 NL and fired $90 into the pot in a clear, forward motion, making a nice line of nine chips extending from my position, all in front of my cards and hands. The dealer said, "That's only an $80 bet." He then explained that the line on the new felts are betting lines, and any chips not across the line do not count as bets. I declared [censored], called a floor, and he ruled that my bet stood.

A few hands later, the same floor returned, apologized, and said that he made the wrong ruling... IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN $80 BET. The tables discusses how retarded this is, and I talk to Skip the supervisor at the time. They know me pretty well there and know about my writing and everything so I get a decent amount of respect, but my opinions meant nothing in this case.

Thus, you could push your entire stack forward, about eight inches to the betting line, not cross a chip over the line, wait for an opponent's play, and then make your play... still in turn.

Retarded... and heads up when playing there.

Devo

[/ QUOTE ]


Not retarted at all. A very good clear rule. You should stop splashing the pot and make your bets properly by placing a stack beyond ther line rather than your "joe cool" splash of nine chips. Anounching the amount also helps as you can add or take back chips if you make a mistake putting them out there as verbal declarations are binding. If a guy doesn't put his chips across and stops moving. Ask did you bet or check and if neither call time on his sleezy scumbag ass.

[jmc999]

I think the "magnetic" property is from the suction effect you get with a recessed inlay on an otherwise perfectly flat plastic chip.

[pfapfap]

How is this an issue for anybody who isn't wearing shades, a hood, and an iPod?

RULE #1: PROTECT YOUR INTEREST AT ALL TIMES

This means putting a chip on your cards. This means following the action. This means announcing your intention. Okay, blah blah, rules are inconsistent, I do it all the time at home, the floor's a jerk, the dealer doesn't know what she's doing, blah blah. Follow rule #1 and I guarantee that most of these silly little "problems" will not happen.

[AngusThermopyle]

Dealer: It's up to you
Me: Seat 6 hasn't acted
Dealer: Yes he has. He bet
Me: That is a bet?
Dealer: Yes
Me: Those chips aren't in the pot
Dealer: It's a bet
Me: Please have him push them farther forward so there is no question.
Dealer: But...
Me: Humor me
Dealer: Sir, please push your bet farther forward.
Seat 6: Me? That's not a bet. I checked.

[VirgilStarkwell]

[ QUOTE ]
I think the "magnetic" property is from the suction effect you get with a recessed inlay on an otherwise perfectly flat plastic chip.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nope, the Borgata chips are actually magnetic. They're made of plastic covered with some kind of transparent plastic film. Very brittle so you'll often see cracked chips. Pry one open a little and you'll see a magnetic disk inside. Maybe the size of a dime but not completely circular.

Borgata tourney chips are standard clay chips.

[AngusThermopyle]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I think the "magnetic" property is from the suction effect you get with a recessed inlay on an otherwise perfectly flat plastic chip.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nope, the Borgata chips are actually magnetic. They're made of plastic covered with some kind of transparent plastic film. Very brittle so you'll often see cracked chips. Pry one open a little and you'll see a magnetic disk inside. Maybe the size of a dime but not completely circular.



[/ QUOTE ]

Nope.
If so, flipping a chip over would make it repel instead of attract another chip it is stacked on top of.
Not saying there isn't an insert. Just that the insert is not a magnet.

[Bulldog]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I think the "magnetic" property is from the suction effect you get with a recessed inlay on an otherwise perfectly flat plastic chip.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nope, the Borgata chips are actually magnetic. They're made of plastic covered with some kind of transparent plastic film. Very brittle so you'll often see cracked chips. Pry one open a little and you'll see a magnetic disk inside. Maybe the size of a dime but not completely circular.



[/ QUOTE ]

Nope.
If so, flipping a chip over would make it repel instead of attract another chip it is stacked on top of.
Not saying there isn't an insert. Just that the insert is not a magnet.


[/ QUOTE ]

Correct.

[Rottersod]

Makes me glad I play in LA where there is no betting line. Actually, there is a line that goes around the tables but it is so far in that it is never considered a betting line.