2/4 - boat river by bigger boat...?!

[Thorv]

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero ...

Results:
Final pot: 12.75BB

Villain is TAG. Gotta raise?

[PietM]

Villain could have a flush here. But would he call a raise with this kind of board? Also, would he bet with a flush on this river...?

I think I'd be a wuss and just call... Can't see him calling a raise with anything we beat, except maybe an overpair?

[Oink]

His range is pretty narrow here. There is 1 88. 1 QQ (even though he didnt cap preflop, the action was HU and a lot of TAGs just call for deception here). 1 QTs. 2 A8s.
Against this range you are a 3:2 underdog. But I think we have to discount QTs and A8s due to the turn action since capping would be overplaying these hands a bit, particular QTs.
I guess AQ and KQ is in his range as well, but these would have been seriously overplayed on the turn.

In short I expect to see 88 and QQ here a lot against a good villain who isnt on tilt, so I just call.

[nickg1532]

i call.

[inferno]

would he bet the river with a flush? That Q is a terrible card for flushies and your hand and a very good card for any Q or 88 hand also a J9h beats you so I dont think this is a raise but folding would be terrible(remember never fold for one bet in those big pots)so its a call

[HoneyBadger]

No, you don't raise here. But you do call.

[tom10167]

Raising is awful. He's folding anything you beat except an eight.