200NL I reraise J 10 suited from BB and SPEW!!! (but how bad?)

[Hince]

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you might be able to shove him off KK.

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After he calls that turn, I don't think he is going anywhere.

[Don Key E37]

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Btw, if I'm villain I know you almost never have AK here and I doubt you play AJ/AQ like this. I will pozz you with KK and AA here a lot.

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why cant hero have AK?

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Why can't hero have 10 10 also? Possibly even AA who flat called a 4 bet? And I don't think calling 27 more to a 4 bet with AK is good and your right I probably wouldn't do it often, but have played with plenty of people who would.

[vm1124]

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Btw, if I'm villain I know you almost never have AK here and I doubt you play AJ/AQ like this. I will pozz you with KK and AA here a lot.

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why cant hero have AK?

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Why can't hero have 10 10 also? Possibly even AA who flat called a 4 bet? And I don't think calling 27 more to a 4 bet with AK is good and your right I probably wouldn't do it often, but have played with plenty of people who would.

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Hero can't have AA, because that's what villain has.

[HoldEmNewby]

Its just poor stack management. You don't have enough muscle to double barrel the turn and river and you don't have enough FE to warrant the one barrel semi-bluff on the turn. By the river villain is calling while doing his best Al Swearengen impression: "I ain't going no place".

[Don Key E37]

Ok thanks for replies. Like I said I don't usually repop J 10 suited out of the blinds and got myself into trouble here. Think I'm probably just better off letting it go to his 4 bet and definetly check folding river. If anyone cares about results all I have to say is LOL

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $200
UTG+1: $305.25
CO: $284.15
Button: $229.15
SB: $152.10
Hero: $228.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $23</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $51</font>, Hero calls $22 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $67)</font>.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($103, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($103, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $70</font>, Button calls $70 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $173)</font>.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($243, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $113.8</font>, Button calls $113.8 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $356.8)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: $470.6
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Jh Th</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button mucks 9c 9h</font>

[Whisper]

Wow, well nh this time but thats not very standard lol. 100% check turn here, you (almost) always are behind, and also you just picked up a draw to take him out! You could c/r all in on turn, not very believable but maybe he will fold

[HoldEmNewby]

nh, but def. not a standard line.

The results are appreciated as it just goes to show how often we miss value by assuming "no sane villain calls a bet on this river with a second best hand". I'm really trying to force myself to get max value. Too often we let passive villains off easily.