TPTK on turn, getting 3 betted - Page 2

vin17 · #11 02-12-2007, 05:33 PM

lol, no I just realized my typo. Sorry. Even still, I'm confused.

stonescar · #12 02-12-2007, 05:39 PM

This is a trainwreck of a thread...

I would fold bet/flop. The board is drawy, and you have RIO.
You might be up against a set or a combo-draw. When he 3-bets the turn, EASY fold. If you are ahead (not often), he will outdraw you on the river alot. I think you're probably up against T9/set.

TheHip41 · #13 02-12-2007, 08:15 PM

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This is a trainwreck of a thread...

I would fold bet/flop. The board is drawy, and you have RIO.
You might be up against a set or a combo-draw. When he 3-bets the turn, EASY fold. If you are ahead (not often), he will outdraw you on the river alot. I think you're probably up against T9/set.

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i bet/call the flop, then donk the turn. I don't want draws taking a free card, and a 7 or 8 folds never.

stonescar · #14 02-12-2007, 09:54 PM

Why do you think bet/calling is better than bet/folding flop? How many clean outs do you estimate that we have?

sharpie · #15 02-12-2007, 10:06 PM

I would check/raise the turn where I play because noone takes a free card.

Once I get 3 bet I would justify a call on the turn because he could have something like J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or another combo draw, and against some 2 pairs we have enough outs.

Once we get to a blank river I would justify a call because the pot is big and we're against an unknown. I might find a fold on certain bad cards.

This could just be an excuse for calling station behavior, but I generally like showing down TPTK heads up against an unknown.

latefordinner · #16 02-12-2007, 10:35 PM

bet/folding this flop is awful once CO folds.

I agree with sharpie, though reads would /certainly/ help.

TomBrooks · #17 02-13-2007, 02:43 AM

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Do you always muck here?

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I might draw to a hopeful 5 outs but I usually wouldn't have c/r'd there in the first place because if Villain was on a flush draw he might take a free card and if he had the T9 OESD it just came in. If he has two pair or a set we might be getting three bet and could be drawing slim or dead.