WTF does a tight player overlimp and then call a PFR OOP with

bottomset · #1 02-12-2007, 10:23 AM

and how do I get all his money?

villian is 18/8 over 125hands seems pretty bad

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($98.50)
UTG+1 ($41.30)
MP1 ($78.75)
MP2 ($97.20)
CO ($99.25)
Hero ($173.35)
SB ($59.70)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $6, CO folds.

Flop: ($17.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero ??

what is my plan?
is his range basically just PPs?

ontiltsoon · #2 02-12-2007, 10:48 AM

Probably PP or SC. Whay is his AF?

bottomset · #3 02-12-2007, 10:51 AM

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AF takes so much longer than VPIP/PFR to converge(which is still pretty varied at 125hands), I don't include it in tiny samples, he's been pretty aggro

only real hand we played against each other

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($42.10)
BB ($43)
UTG ($160.80)
MP ($40.50)
Hero ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($23.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($23.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15.

River: ($53.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $35, UTG calls $35.

Final Pot: $123.50

he had KK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

andyEB · #4 02-12-2007, 10:53 AM

2/3 pot on flop, call a raise. Hope he leads turn so you can raise, if not bet turn and look to have it AI by river. If he's not a tighty I will look to b-3b flop.

Berge20 · #5 02-12-2007, 10:54 AM

C-bet if you normally would.

I find that people love to CR C-bets on paired boards to test you.

andyEB · #6 02-12-2007, 10:55 AM

Given that other hand I would bet and look to 3-bet/get it AI on the flop or turn.

bottomset · #7 02-12-2007, 10:57 AM

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Is this a joke?

2/3 pot on flop, call a raise. Hope he leads turn so you can raise, if not bet turn and look to have it AI by river. If he's not a tighty I will look to b-3b flop.

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he almost certainly missed the flop, and likely has a weak hand generally with 2outs or less, these hands aren't calling multiple bets too often, so how do I induce him into playing a big pot from way behind

D.L.M. · #8 02-12-2007, 11:04 AM

id say that we need to make a half pot bet on the flop. then a full one on the turn. and play the river yourself. hopefully he c/res on the flop so you can push.

andyEB · #9 02-12-2007, 11:04 AM

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Is this a joke?

2/3 pot on flop, call a raise. Hope he leads turn so you can raise, if not bet turn and look to have it AI by river. If he's not a tighty I will look to b-3b flop.

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he almost certainly missed the flop, and likely has a weak hand generally with 2outs or less, these hands aren't calling multiple bets too often, so how do I induce him into playing a big pot from way behind

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You can safely check, but given that other hand he looks like a station. Also on this type of board I've noticed people will call more often than you think especially if you have an AGG image. If he has an OP I don't think he's folding, if he doesn't, the answer is you aren't getting much out of him anyway so make it look like a c-bet at the flop and hope he floats you.

Against some villains who I would consider NITty I'm OK checking for deception, but I'd like to start building a pot and stacking him if he's got an OP.

Ampelmann · #10 02-12-2007, 11:13 AM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($42.10)
BB ($43)
UTG ($160.80)
MP ($40.50)
Hero ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($23.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

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I'm curious about this hand. Why didn't you bet the flop? Are you afraid of AQ or QQ?