Hand vs BodogAri, Final Table Warm Up

[Eagles]

I think I call a few things need to be considered.

1. How often have you been opening

2. Does he know who you are?
3. Are we supposed to read is 1.9mill reraise differently from a push? What reason would ari have for this?
4. Has he 3bet you yet?

[sirio11]

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1. How often have you been opening

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Not very often

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2. Does he know who you are?

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Yes, we've played a lot together. I'd say he should know he has not much FE in this spot against me from my previous play with him.

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3. Are we supposed to read is 1.9mill reraise differently from a push? What reason would ari have for this?


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Don't really know his reason, for me it's exactly the same.

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4. Has he 3bet you yet?

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Once before in the FT and I folded then.

[Eagles]

Alright after reading the response I'm still really confused here's why.

1. The fact that he knows he doesn't have much fe mans that he's prob pushing tight

2.I feel like the slightly less than push isn't an accident and it maybe because he's trying to make his hand look stronger to increase his FE.

I dunno I guess I call but I'm not really liking it

[thegreatchris]

No experience with Ari, but I was railing when he 3-bet you with a middle pair and cracked your KK earlier. I thought this situation seemed similar and his leaving a small bit behind was to represent more strength than he actually had. Just a railer's two cents...

[adanthar]

ari is pushing much tigther than most people here. this goes triple when he knows he doesn't have much FE.

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

after reading what his perceived image is of you, looks like a fold to me

[beenben]

I'm torn. AT is a pretty big hand 5 handed. he could easily be making a play here. OTOH, you're behind to to four other ace hands, pairs, especially JJQQKK and you've still got chips if you fold. you're crippled if you lose. the payout structure is top heavy. you want first, and shouldn't care about the 5k difference b/t 4th and 5th. I guess I'd push but it's close.

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above was w/o reading other replies. and I don't know Bodog Ari.

[BodogAri]

PokerStars Game #8396358498: Tournament #42220474, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (100000/200000) - 2007/02/11 - 20:55:42 (ET)
Table '42220474 105' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: sirio11 (3174416 in chips)
Seat 4: BodogAri (2325542 in chips)
Seat 6: Inf3rnal (3510261 in chips)
Seat 7: Legato (7695141 in chips)
Seat 8: Richoon (3824640 in chips)
sirio11: posts the ante 10000
BodogAri: posts the ante 10000
Inf3rnal: posts the ante 10000
Legato: posts the ante 10000
Richoon: posts the ante 10000
Inf3rnal: posts small blind 100000
Legato: posts big blind 200000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BodogAri [Jc As]
Richoon: folds
sirio11: raises 400000 to 600000
BodogAri: raises 1300000 to 1900000
Inf3rnal: folds
Legato: folds
sirio11: folds
BodogAri collected 1550000 from pot
BodogAri: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1550000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: sirio11 folded before Flop
Seat 4: BodogAri (button) collected (1550000)
Seat 6: Inf3rnal (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Legato (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Richoon folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[DonT77]

When a good player pushes over you at a FT w/o much FE you can bet your AT is behind - esp if you've been playing fairly tight and you are raising against non-easy targets in the blinds. There are better situations for a player to attempt a re-steal.

While this may be a marginal cEV call, the FT is one place where the $EV can be divergent from cEV.

All this said, Ari knows these things, so there could be some higher level 'he knows I don't have much FE here, so he'll think I'm strong' type thinking here too - so I don't think calling here is terrible, but I'd give a lean towards folding.

[blockafor]

Or maybe it went like this...

PokerStars Game #8396358498: Tournament #42220474, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (100000/200000) - 2007/02/11 - 20:55:42 (ET)
Table '42220474 105' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: sirio11 (3174416 in chips)
Seat 4: BodogAri (2325542 in chips)
Seat 6: Inf3rnal (3510261 in chips)
Seat 7: Legato (7695141 in chips)
Seat 8: Richoon (3824640 in chips)
sirio11: posts the ante 10000
BodogAri: posts the ante 10000
Inf3rnal: posts the ante 10000
Legato: posts the ante 10000
Richoon: posts the ante 10000
Inf3rnal: posts small blind 100000
Legato: posts big blind 200000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BodogAri [7d 3c]
Richoon: folds
sirio11: raises 400000 to 600000
BodogAri: raises 1300000 to 1900000
Inf3rnal: folds
Legato: folds
sirio11: folds
BodogAri collected 1550000 from pot
BodogAri: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1550000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: sirio11 folded before Flop
Seat 4: BodogAri (button) collected (1550000)
Seat 6: Inf3rnal (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Legato (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Richoon folded before Flop (didn't bet)