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02-09-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
As I said in OP, I think 10 yards is reasonable. Anything beyond that might a bit much IMO. The reason I have a problem with 80 yards is that this means the ball would be spotted at the 30 yard line. Kickoffs are currently from the 30. They use a tee which has to add something, and I've never seen anyone come close to putting it through the uprights.
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02-09-2007, 12:44 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
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I've never seen anyone come close to putting it through the uprights. [/ QUOTE ] Kick offs come close relatively often and I've definitely seen at least a couple go through the uprights
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02-09-2007, 01:10 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
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[ QUOTE ] I've never seen anyone come close to putting it through the uprights. [/ QUOTE ] Kick offs come close relatively often and I've definitely seen at least a couple go through the uprights [/ QUOTE ] Also - on kickoffs I think they are going a little more for trajectory/hang-time. I don't think the kicks are the same. If he was actually trying to kick a FG from there he would adjust to try for more distance and less hang-time. The tee definitely has to add something. I think the trajectory issue of not having to kick into defenders wouldn't be too much. Maybe a little. More important is that the kicker can take a couple extra steps and doesn't have to rush. On regular FG's he's practically winding up his leg to kick the ball before it's even in place and no matter how many times you practice that it has to be a disadvantage to already having the ball in the exact spot right from the start.
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02-09-2007, 01:18 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
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Also - on kickoffs I think they are going a little more for trajectory/hang-time. I don't think the kicks are the same. If he was actually trying to kick a FG from there he would adjust to try for more distance and less hang-time. [/ QUOTE ] If they could just kick out the back of the end zone I'm pretty sure they would and not worry about trajectory/hang-time.
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#5
02-09-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
my dad always complains about this. he said his college teams kicker could kick kickoffs through the end zone everytime. if vinateri could have done that and negated hester it would have been much better. i still dont get why they cant.
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#6
02-09-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
1. You dad is likely exaggerating.
2. NFL kickoffs have to 5 yards farther to get to the end zone than in college. 3. If a guy was out there that could kick it through the endzone every time he would be on an NFL team. The Colts employed several kickoff specialists over the last several years and none of them were particularly good. Such a kicker would be quite valuable.
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#7
02-09-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
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my dad always complains about this. he said his college teams kicker could kick kickoffs through the end zone everytime. if vinateri could have done that and negated hester it would have been much better. i still dont get why they cant. [/ QUOTE ] College teams kick off from the 35, not the 30 like they do in the NFL.
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#8
02-09-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
if by 'his college teams kicker' he meant back when HE was in college....I'm think they kicked-off from the 40 back in the day.
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02-11-2007, 11:48 AM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
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[ QUOTE ] my dad always complains about this. he said his college teams kicker could kick kickoffs through the end zone everytime. if vinateri could have done that and negated hester it would have been much better. i still dont get why they cant. [/ QUOTE ] College teams kick off from the 35, not the 30 like they do in the NFL. [/ QUOTE ] Also, in college they use much more kicker-friendly tees. The NFL used to have them, too, but when they puched the kickoffs back to the 30 they also changed the tees to those squat black things they've got now. I remember hearing about a lot of kickers who said that the new tees were a bigger problem than the five extra yards.
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02-09-2007, 01:58 PM
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Re: How much farther could a FG go if no blockers?
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[ QUOTE ] Also - on kickoffs I think they are going a little more for trajectory/hang-time. I don't think the kicks are the same. If he was actually trying to kick a FG from there he would adjust to try for more distance and less hang-time. [/ QUOTE ] If they could just kick out the back of the end zone I'm pretty sure they would and not worry about trajectory/hang-time. [/ QUOTE ] I considered something like that too. What if they can't do it every time though? Lets say they have a 30% chance to kick it ouf of the back of the end-zone with a lower trajectory, but on the times they miss the ball comes down 1 second faster allowing the receiving team a big advantage to run it back to the 35 or better. In a situation something like this it would seem more appropriate to 'play it safe' and not go for the end-zone boomer...but instead let it hang up there a bit longer, and if it happens to also have the distance to not be returnable (3+ yds deep into the end-zone probably) then that's a bonus. I don't know if any of these numbers are accurate. Just trying to create a hypothetical as to why kickers should still try for more trajectory instead of booming it out. I don't really know if they actually try for higher trajectory or if they just kick it as far as they can and the trajectory already comes with it.
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