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Old 02-09-2007, 02:45 AM
aggie aggie is offline
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

You're getting 2-1....The only logical river bluffing hand here is A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Ko (4-combos)....He could easily have QQ or JJ...There are also several flush combos he could easily have (at least 8 combos)....Even if he could be occasionaly be bluffing with something else, i think this seems like a fold without any further reads
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:45 AM
Brian O'Nolan Brian O'Nolan is offline
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

Is AHK not balla enough for you high stakes guys? Why would you ever mistype a bet...
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

easy call, supposing it was not a misclick and misclicks dont happen often enough to fold here
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

I've seen very good players deliberately making this donk bets on the turn when they are on some sort of a draw. They induce you to think this was a miss click to get a free card followed by a pot size bet on the river regardless they hit or not, which you can't really call without a strong hand.
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

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I've seen very good players deliberately making this donk bets on the turn when they are on some sort of a draw. They induce you to think this was a miss click to get a free card followed by a pot size bet on the river regardless they hit or not, which you can't really call without a strong hand.

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villian is in postion.
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

You saw he had position when he made the $200 bet?

I've never seen SL make a bet like that so I'd assume he meant $2,000. Against most players I guess the river is a fold but I may donk off a call against SL because he's such a tart and seems to love playing deep when he thinks he can scare players etc.
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

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I've seen very good players deliberately making this donk bets on the turn when they are on some sort of a draw. They induce you to think this was a miss click to get a free card followed by a pot size bet on the river regardless they hit or not, which you can't really call without a strong hand.

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villian is in postion.

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Ye, in position. 1/10th of a pot still qualifies as a free card in my opinion, but puts the hero under a lot of pressure. In live games players just throw in a wrong chip and then make a sad face - Omg, its a wrong color! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

Yeah I'm pretty positive that the turn bet is a misclick with these stacks. There's no reason for him to make it unless it left him with a 3/4psb for the river or something but it doesn't.

I think I donk the flop and call a raise and evaluate the turn. As played, I call the flop 3bet with intentions of folding to a real bet on the turn (without the board pairing, obv). I don't think he's going to make a real bet on the turn with anything but a flush. But since he bet 10% of the pot you have to call and then fold on the river I think.

Then again, the turn typo kind of adds a new element. Because the fact that you didn't raise it might give him more incentive to bluff the river with AsX, but I still think I fold.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

The turn bet, intentional or not, gives away a ton about your hand when you just call it because any hand that could comfortably call a river bet would then try and get more money in on the turn.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 2000 NL... I wish I had four fours...

IMO, the odds of a misclick are very low here. I would say 99% of my misclicks are either preflop where I am rushing the action, or when I click a button by mistake. When I am in a big hand I pretty much never misclick since all of my focus goes to that hand.
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