AA poop

[jba]

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On the river, I don't like b/f because the pot's too big and I don't like b/c because I don't think he's raising with anything we beat. So I'd c/c.

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no offense but this is fish logic.

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Maybe so, but I don't see why it's so inapplicable here. If Villain is someone who doesn't get out of line we should be giving him some credit for hand-reading ability as a default. What do you think he puts Hero on after Hero capped preflop and treyed the flop that would lead him to raise the river? When SB and BB call preflop, one would assume Hero's capping range is pretty tight. B/c seeems like an unnecessarily expensive way of showing down. I guess b/f is better than b/c, but I wouldn't feel comfortable about folding.

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"too expensive" what does that even mean? c/c is expensive too because his hands like AJ and TT and 99 and AK and AQ are all checking behind.

there's no difference between these:

1- money you put in as a bet when behind
2- money you put in when calling a raise from behind
3- money you leave in the pot when you fold to a bluff raise
4- money that you failed to get when you check and he checks behind

you seem to think 2 and 3 are super duper important and don't seem to have considered 4 (or at least you don't think it's nearly as relevant). the fact is #2 and #3 are much more rare than 4. #1 is pretty common though.

[jba]

as for OP I don't think there's much of a difference between bet/call and bet/fold. he's really only going to raise here with KJ or KK imo.

I think c/c is pretty awful though.

[PokerSparky]

Betting the river is mandatory IMO, calling a raise is up to you. I'd call, but I love paying off on the river, maybe you don't.

[Wolfram]

*grunch*

super-insta-automatic bet for value. I'll call a raise 'cause I'm a showdown monkey, and pot is so huge it's never a big mistake.

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I want to say we can bet fold here? feel free to tell me im wrong.

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I need a ninja read before I'm bet/folding an overpair getting 16:1 odds.

Who am I kidding... I'm never folding this hand for 16:1 odds

[johnnyrocket]

check/call or bet/fold are your 2 lines, since he is aggro i'd go with the check/call to see how he is playing specific hands for future reads.

[LuckyLucky]

I fully agree that c/c is going to lose you a bunch of value.

He'll call down with everything he has. He'll probably raise if he's got you beat, so bet-fold if you have the mental toughness to do so.

If not, bet-call.

But if you check-call, you'll only be calling when you are behind.

[Wolfram]

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He'll probably raise if he's got you beat, so bet-fold if you have the mental toughness to do so.

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You do realize that you'll have to be 94% certain that he's not bluffing for a fold to be correct?

[LuckyLucky]

Would you ever bluff on that board with that action?

[MattiasL]

My logic: I am not folding without a super read, so the choices are b/c and c/c. Since I think he bets to a check with pretty much the same range that he raises to a bet, the question is if you are ahead > 50%. I definitely think so.

Conclusion: b/c

[TomBrooks]

I say Check.

He'll bet most of his hands when you check anyway.

He'll probably bet with many of the same hands he would have called with if you bet.

He won't be raising with any hand you beat so you still get one bet in on the river most of the time when you're ahead.

By checking he can't raise so you won't have to pay two when you're behind.

If you bet and get raised you have to call especially because he might raise AK, but a lot of the time you get raised you'll be paying two to see a loss.

A lot of that depends on how he plays though.