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Old 02-07-2007, 06:09 PM
BoozeHound BoozeHound is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

1. we have one of the aces.
2. he only called pf against a player who has been 3-betting with some frequency.
3- call on the flop on coordinated board
4. betting the turn for only half the pot after a sudden check call after a c-bet on the flop
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

I think it's really close. I feel there is a decent chance he has KK, AA, AKs. I dunno if he QQ or JJ bets the river. I think this is pretty opponent dependant. I would probably C/R turn AI, as he could have TT+ there.
As played... I think I call.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

I'm willing to bet villian doesn't have aces.
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

River is a call. You've really underrepped your hand. I'm torn as to whether the rest of the hand is played well or not. When you choose to 3b a hand preflop, you usually have to be happy to felt TPTK/overpair on innocuous boards.
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

The villain seemed solid and capable of thinking on the 2nd level ("what does my opponent have?").

Maybe I am overestimating villain's capabilities but how can he valuebet with 99-QQ here? With what kind of hands do I call a riverbet with that beats 99-QQ? And I don't see him bluffing.


Maybe off-topic: what kind of reads would warrant a rivercall or a riverfold?
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:17 PM
Hank Scorpio Hank Scorpio is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

I think it is quite possible he had a similar hand with a draw after the flop and paired the king also. In fact, if I had to bet that's the hand I'd put him on. I also know that if I had a draw throughout that hand I would probably bet AI on the river too after the weakness you showed.

As for 2nd level thinking, I think that most people are capable of that. I'm not sure how anyone could play more than 100 hands without trying to think in terms of what their opponent has.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

If villain is your normal solid tag I wouldn't necessarily think he has a set, since I think he would fast play the flop with so many draws on the board, so it maybe looks like he is pushing a combo draw like AKc so you would be more inclined to call with overpairs.
To be honest, if this guy is playing straightforward I think I would have to pinpoint him on AK, since he called the flop AsKs. This could be AA, but I think a straightforward player would raise the flop because of the draws, cards that could kill the action, put villain in a tough spot.
Since your image is aggressive this could however be a set, AA and AKS. Think he would have 4bet AA pf though.
I think you are splitting on the river at best and thus folding would be the move with the highest EV. I can't see a weaker hand playing like that. Could be AQs trying a desperation bluff.
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

I called river because I underrepped my hand. He showed 22 and MHING. I was pretty surprised to see the ducks here. Not to be result oriented, but I still don't see a hand I beat that would push river.

Thank you all for the comments.
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

Hands that you beat that push here: busted flush draws that tried to semi-bluff you on the turn.
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