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Old 02-06-2007, 08:23 PM
WilyTilt WilyTilt is offline
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Default Top two, weak low draw, PLO8

http://www.pokerhand.org/?800155

-I usually don't play PLO $600.
-So far on the table I've been limp calling and folding flops, raising PF and not c-betting flops. So I may have a weak/scared money image on the table.
-I don't anything about villain.

Here, I limp and get raised from the SB. Flop gives me top two and a bad low draw. I feel like I didn't think enough before I got my money in - I was just thinking, he has 2-4 or just a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I'm feeling that I should've folded to his three-bet, or just folded to his bet (?)

I'll post results later.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:53 PM
Omaha8sPoker Omaha8sPoker is offline
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Default Re: Top two, weak low draw, PLO8

DaveBReal, that guy's a huge fish...Should be EZ money...

But seriously BuklaH is probably the top PLO8 player on Stars (what was he on Party, GASSSS_U?), never played with him, just watched him a lot to try to learn...Saw him sitting with like $9500 one nite on a PLO8 $1000 table...Dave would probably be able to comment better on his tendancies, but this isn't a Mustafa situation where he has a set...I think this guy could 3-bet with a wide variety, including a set of As and a low or a super-wrap with a straigh and flush draw...

You sure know how to go up against the big boys, don't you?
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:11 PM
Omaha8sPoker Omaha8sPoker is offline
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Default Re: Top two, weak low draw, PLO8

Just looking in on the $600 game and thought this might F with your head a little Wily...

PokerStars Game #8316614214: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/02/06 - 22:09:09 (ET)
Table 'Vienna V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: pepperdiablo ($522 in chips)
Seat 2: SSSHIP_IT ($558.60 in chips)
Seat 3: pupe ($597 in chips)
Seat 4: NOXQZEZ ($166.25 in chips)
Seat 5: iamaction ($191 in chips)
Seat 6: NaturalOne ($600 in chips)
Seat 7: SittingBull ($743.60 in chips)
Seat 8: BuklaH ($912.95 in chips)
Seat 9: davebreal ($1740.45 in chips)
BuklaH: posts small blind $3
davebreal: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
pepperdiablo: raises $12 to $18
SSSHIP_IT: folds
pupe: folds
NOXQZEZ: folds
iamaction: folds
NaturalOne: folds
SittingBull: folds
BuklaH: calls $15
davebreal: folds
*** FLOP *** [As Tc 8d]
BuklaH: checks
pepperdiablo: bets $24
BuklaH: raises $87.90 to $111.90
pepperdiablo: folds
BuklaH collected $87 from pot
BuklaH: shows [8c 5h 5c 9d] (HI: a pair of Eights)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $90 | Rake $3
Board [As Tc 8d]
Seat 1: pepperdiablo folded on the Flop
Seat 2: SSSHIP_IT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pupe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: NOXQZEZ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: iamaction folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: NaturalOne folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SittingBull (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BuklaH (small blind) collected ($87)
Seat 9: davebreal (big blind) folded before Flop
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:51 PM
Drizztdj Drizztdj is offline
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Default Re: Top two, weak low draw, PLO8

Tough spot but two pair with a flush draw, wheel draw out there isn't a spot to go to war with.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Top two, weak low draw, PLO8

[ QUOTE ]
DaveBReal, that guy's a huge fish...Should be EZ money...

But seriously BuklaH is probably the top PLO8 player on Stars (what was he on Party, GASSSS_U?), never played with him, just watched him a lot to try to learn...Saw him sitting with like $9500 one nite on a PLO8 $1000 table...Dave would probably be able to comment better on his tendancies, but this isn't a Mustafa situation where he has a set...I think this guy could 3-bet with a wide variety, including a set of As and a low or a super-wrap with a straigh and flush draw...

You sure know how to go up against the big boys, don't you?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, haha, I do tend to get into tough situations with the regulars. Usually to my detriment [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Since not many responses have been posted so far, I'll post the results, and hopefully more responses will come in:

Buklah held A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Turn was a 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], River was a 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I ended up scooping a very nice $1600 pot.

I think this may be his reasoning:

1) I could be raising a 2-4 nut low draw, or wheel draw, just like I thought he was raising.
2) He may be be able to push me off a two pair hand (?)
3) Just like me, he can't just call and go to the turn with any money behind. If I catch a low, he's getting freerolled.
4) I may have a flush draw also, in which case his jack-high and his two pair may make him a favorite.

Still, overall I don't think his three-bet/push was good. I don't think that he has much fold equity against me, when I have 2/5 of my stack in already with my pot sized raise. Also, even against a wheel draw (without a flush draw) it's close to 50-50.

But again, given the other post here, he may have a tendency to push mediocre hands hard..

Thoughts? Like I said, I don't play this high usually, so maybe more the players are very aggressive like him.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:55 PM
Omaha8sPoker Omaha8sPoker is offline
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Default Re: Top two, weak low draw, PLO8

I'm with you, I don't usually play even close to that high...When ever I try to chip up and play higher I find myself floundering because my opponents at the lower levels are so bad that I find I'm still trying to push against opponents that are making far less mistakes...
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Top two, weak low draw, PLO8

Gasssssssssssssssssss........
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