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Old 02-07-2007, 03:08 AM
halperin halperin is offline
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Default 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

should i have folded here?;/ i pushed thinking he was raising me assuming that the flop missed me since i raise pre.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $22.40
UTG+1: $24.85
CO: $10.45
Button: $40.95
SB: $8.85
Hero: $25.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $4.85</font>.
Uncalled bets: $12.15 returned to Hero.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $17.7)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($17.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $17.7)


Results:
Final pot: $17.7
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:36 AM
Askilus Askilus is offline
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

If you think that his flop raise is a bluff why don't you call and revaluate the turn? The problem with that flop is that is fits into many of the trash hands that SB would complete with.
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

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If you think that his flop raise is a bluff why don't you call and revaluate the turn? The problem with that flop is that is fits into many of the trash hands that SB would complete with.

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Stack-sizes and way too many draws on the board to be doing this. Flop play is pretty standard, this is an overpair in a blind battle against a shorty who limp-called your raise. This is often A7, 87, 76, two random hearts too often to fold here.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

I didn't said it was wrong, I was just wondering. And I missed that he was short. It's easy to miss with the topic and all [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

Shorty + drawy board = shove all day. Absolutely no reason to try and see another card, you have two cards in the deck that improve you, plus you're ahead a huge majority of the time here.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

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should i have folded here?;/ i pushed thinking he was raising me assuming that the flop missed me since i raise pre.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $22.40
UTG+1: $24.85
CO: $10.45
Button: $40.95
SB: $8.85
Hero: $25.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $4.85</font>.
Uncalled bets: $12.15 returned to Hero.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $17.7)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($17.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $17.7)


Results:
Final pot: $17.7

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Hero played this hand fine.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

fold the turn
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

hand is fine
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Old 02-08-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: 99, all unders on board facing raise vs shorty. do i fold?

standard
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