2-4NL (FR) - KK vs good opponent and bad board

[Mench]

8 tabling 400NL Full Ring and villain is on half my tables. Seems pretty good, hasn't shown down anything rediculous, but has a huge flop AF like 14 (over 200 hands though so I dont know if thats significant.

He is like 21/14 over 200 hands, but we havnt tangled other than me calling a raise/folding to c bet or bluff raising a flop (which didnt go past the flop) in position.


In the hand, I figured flop check is good sometimes (though I already argued this with a HSNL poster)

I suppose I could have raised turn, but I figure with pot my raise = shove and since I think his range is weighted heavily towards PPs I just call, river I had no clue.

Comments on all streets appreciated. I also think the fact that I hold the Kc is very important and though about this fact a bit on the turn/river as I acted.

Finally, though I havn't played with him a ton, I think he is the type that could cold-call a 3 bet with AA pre(rare at FR)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($419.95)
Hero ($586.35)
SB ($481.90)
BB ($344.70)
UTG ($884.70)
UTG+1 ($398)
MP1 ($416.85)
MP2 ($376)
MP3 ($630.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $64</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $44.

Flop: ($134) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($134) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $68</font>, Hero calls $68.

River: ($270) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $244 (All-In)</font>

[CIncyHR]

Checking this flop is terrible.

As played call river, he doesnt have a better hand enough of the time. I dont htink he shoves AA on this river.

[Mench]

Am I betting the flop with the intention of calling a CRAI. Id assume so.

Also, what do I beat onthe river.

[king_of_drafts]

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Am I betting the flop with the intention of calling a CRAI. Id assume so.

Also, what do I beat onthe river.

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yah, bet flop

fold river, he isn't doing this with AQ

[KEWL]

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Am I betting the flop with the intention of calling a CRAI. Id assume so.

Also, what do I beat onthe river.

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yes;
you beat a bluff on the river, thats about it

[EUnit24]

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Checking this flop is terrible.

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Why?
Do you bet AK here as well?

I think your line is OK. Fold river.

[wdead]

i would cbet this flop with AK sometimes and sometimes check. I would always bet KK. Does villain have you beat here 70% of the time, I dunno. The only prob is your hand looks like AKcc or QQ and he is still shoving.