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02-06-2007, 01:18 PM
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Re: Which Federal Items Would You Elect To Pay For If You Could Choose?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] BTW, where did you get the list? [/ QUOTE ] The list was provided in another thread by bobcalbk, but I would guess it is not a complete list. He said it was things he "liked" about the state, in that thread. Sorry for not doing my own research but the post actually started out to be much simpler and shorter and I was eager to post it when I finally got done [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] It is Bocablkr - I made the list in response to an AC post a while back and have kept it for responses to similar posts. It was a little longer but it has been narrowed down to programs I thought were important. As has been said, a lot of people do not realize what their tax dollars are spent on. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry for getting your name wrong. And yes...I would bet most people are not much aware of what their tax dollars are spent on. I also wonder just how much things might change if people were to become much more aware of that. [/ QUOTE ] No problem. I personally do not actually like all the items on the list and if I had a choice might not pay for all of them. But they are all important to different segments of our population. Trying to separate what each of us would pay for and then restrict our use of said services if we did not pay would be a nightmare. That is why everyone pays for education for example, even though they may not have children. I think that is a fair price to pay for living in the the greatest democracy on Earth. I really do not have a problem paying for services I do not need knowing that others do. I KNOW AC'ers don't agree. 
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#12
02-06-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: Which Federal Items Would You Elect To Pay For If You Could Choose
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I personally do not actually like all the items on the list and if I had a choice might not pay for all of them. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think that is a fair price to pay for living in the the greatest democracy on Earth. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I really do not have a problem paying for services I do not need knowing that others do. [/ QUOTE ] So you're saying you wouldn't pay for them if given the choice but you don't mind being forced to pay for them? I don't believe you, it's a self contradictory statement.
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#13
02-06-2007, 02:26 PM
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Re: Which Federal Items Would You Elect To Pay For If You Could Choose
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Ballistic Missile Defense Organization Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms Bureau of Arms Control Bureau of Engraving & Printing Bureau of the Census Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigations Board (USCSB) Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) Commodity Futures Trading Commission Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Defense Information Systems Agency Defense Intelligence Agency Defense Logistics Agency Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board Defense Security Service Defense Threat Reduction Agency Drug Enforcement Administration Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Export-Import Bank of the U.S. Farm Credit Administration (FCA) Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) Federal Election Commission (FEC) Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Federal Energy Regulatory Commission Federal Highway Administration Federal Housing Finance Board (FHFB) Federal Maritime Commission Federal Mediation & Conciliation Service Federal Mine Safety & Health Review Commission Federal Railroad Administration Federal Reserve System Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Food & Drug Administration General Accounting Office (GAO) General Services Administration (GSA) Ginnie Mae Immigration & Naturalization Services Internal Revenue Services (IRS) International Bank for Reconstruction & Development International Labor Organization International Monetary Fund International Trade Commission (USITC) Medicare Payment Advisory Commission National Aeronautics and Space Administration(NASA) National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) National Bioethics Advisory Commission National Highway Traffic Safety Administration National Imagery & Mapping Agency National Institute of Justice National Institute of Mental Health National Institute of Standards & Technology National Institutes of Health National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) National Park Service National Science Foundation (NSF) National Security Agency (NSA) National Technology Transfer Center (NTTC) National Telecommunications Information Administration National Transportation Safety Board Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission Patent & Trademark Office Peace Corps Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) Postal Rate Commission Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) Securities Investor Protection Corp. Selective Service System (SSS) Small Business Administration (SBA) Smithsonian Institution Social Security Administration (SSA) Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration Tennessee Valley Authority Trade and Development Agency U.S. Customs Service U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service U.S. Forest Service U.S. Government Printing Office U.S. Institute of Peace U.S. Marshals Service U.S. Treasury United States Postal Service (USPS) [/ QUOTE ] No thanks.
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02-06-2007, 02:39 PM
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Re: Which Federal Items Would You Elect To Pay For If You Could Choose
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[ QUOTE ] I personally do not actually like all the items on the list and if I had a choice might not pay for all of them. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think that is a fair price to pay for living in the the greatest democracy on Earth. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I really do not have a problem paying for services I do not need knowing that others do. [/ QUOTE ] So you're saying you wouldn't pay for them if given the choice but you don't mind being forced to pay for them? I don't believe you, it's a self contradictory statement. [/ QUOTE ] Does anyone else here not understand my statement. If given a choice, I would not pay for some. I am not given a choice. However, I do not consider that force. I think that is where most statists and AC'ers don't understand each other. Just because I am not given a choice does not mean I feel like I am being forced to do something. I do it willingly because I accept that as a part of being in a democracy.
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#16
02-06-2007, 03:00 PM
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Re: Which Federal Items Would You Elect To Pay For If You Could Choose
It may not feel like force but how else would you describe it? This is why ACists have to use "ridiculous" analogies. It is because people ascribe magical illogical properties to precisely the things of the state an only the things of the state.
[ QUOTE ] If given a choice, I would not pay for some hamburgers. I am not given a choice. However, I do not consider that force... Just because I am not given a choice does not mean I feel like I am being forced to buy hamburgers I do it willingly because I accept that as a part of being in a democracy. [/ QUOTE ]
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#17
02-06-2007, 06:44 PM
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Re: Which Federal Items Would You Elect To Pay For If You Could Choose
No to: DEA, Patents & Trademarks, and Equal Employment Opprotunity Commission. But wait! This can be changed with policy. No need to destroy the whole institution.
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#18
02-06-2007, 07:12 PM
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Re: Which Federal Items Would You Elect To Pay For If You Could Choose?
I take the list to Justice Scalia and ask him to line out every item that fails his constitutionaly authorized test. I'd imagine quit a few would go buh bye and > 1/2 the required expenditure would disappear.
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