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#291
02-06-2007, 02:18 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] The problem that ACists never admit is that non-states can just as easily evolve into oppressive states with time as well. [/ QUOTE ] That appears to be one of the major unfounded assumptions of anarchism, namely that the state is necessarily a more efficient means of oppression than what enters the picture to fill the power vacuum without it. [/ QUOTE ] Your fallacy is assuming that a power vacuum is a *necessary* result of the removal of the state. This certainly *would* be a result of removing current states in a sudden, unexpected fashion. 
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#292
02-06-2007, 02:19 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] However, if someday people change their minds and decide that freedom is a good idea, the state will collapse and it will be nearly impossible for any state to form in that area, as people who value freedom will work to defend it. [/ QUOTE ] Freedom is the very reason the American government was put in place to begin with. I suggest you read some history. [/ QUOTE ] You should do the same. Start with the Anti-Federalist Papers.
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#293
02-06-2007, 02:20 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] and that it is unquestionably true [/ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for the source that says ACists hold degrees in very high numbers. [/ QUOTE ] You're gonna be waiting a long time. Although as I said, I'd love to see you find just a single one that doesn't. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't Shake like 19 or something? I'm pretty sure HMK is still in college too. Are we counting undergrad degrees as 'advanced' degrees? Regardless, I'm not quite sure any of the ACists here should cast an aura of intellectual superiority around themselves due to their accomplishments in academia, given that as far as I know Boro is the only one who has accomplished something noteworthy (namely that he had a PhD) -- and his accomplishments are in a field that's rather disassociated from economics and political philosophy.
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#294
02-06-2007, 02:21 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] and that it is unquestionably true [/ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for the source that says ACists hold degrees in very high numbers. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, you will find quite a large number of them at these links.
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#295
02-06-2007, 02:24 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] and that it is unquestionably true [/ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for the source that says ACists hold degrees in very high numbers. [/ QUOTE ] You're gonna be waiting a long time. Although as I said, I'd love to see you find just a single one that doesn't. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't Shake like 19 or something? I'm pretty sure HMK is still in college too. Are we counting undergrad degrees as 'advanced' degrees? [/ QUOTE ] Earlier in the thread I included those pursuing. I am pursuing for another 3 months. And my chemical engineering degree kicks your degree's ass. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I was including an undergrad degree as advanced, although if you really have a desire to nitpick that part of it, the links in my last post show almost exclusively people with graduate degrees.
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#296
02-06-2007, 02:25 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] and that it is unquestionably true [/ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for the source that says ACists hold degrees in very high numbers. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, you will find quite a large number of them at these links. [/ QUOTE ] That's a bit silly to cite Mises.org, no? Should citing the CV's of 'statist' think tanks contributors (essentially every other think tank that isn't Mises) constitute inexorable proof that statists are smarter?
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#297
02-06-2007, 02:26 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] and that it is unquestionably true [/ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for the source that says ACists hold degrees in very high numbers. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, you will find quite a large number of them at these links. [/ QUOTE ] Okay, well I could link you to a list of every person who graduated with a masters or better last year, and I'll wager a very large proportion of them are statists.
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#298
02-06-2007, 02:27 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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and his accomplishments are in a field that's rather disassociated from economics and political philosophy. [/ QUOTE ] And it would be nearly impossible to make the same achievements in those fields, considering that he is an anarchocapitalist. Even Rothbard was long shunned by major universities until UNLV finally threw him a bone.
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#299
02-06-2007, 02:28 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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Earlier in the thread I included those pursuing. I am pursuing for another 3 months. And my chemical engineering degree kicks your degree's ass. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] 1) You might be right, but I suspect you have no idea what my undergrad degree is in or where I got it from. 2) Your scientific credibility is severely undermined (for me, at least) given how much time you used to spend defending intelligent design here. Do you really have a degree in chemical engineering from someplace that isn't somewhere like Oral Roberts?
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#300
02-06-2007, 02:29 AM
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Re: What do you like about the State?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] and that it is unquestionably true [/ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for the source that says ACists hold degrees in very high numbers. [/ QUOTE ] FWIW, you will find quite a large number of them at these links. [/ QUOTE ] Okay, well I could link you to a list of every person who graduated with a masters or better last year, and I'll wager a very large proportion of them are statists. [/ QUOTE ] That would not necessarily be inconsistent with his conjecture. DYSW?
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