Razz - Anyone find a fold here on 5th?

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Does anyone like a fold better on 5th? Also is 3rd reraise marginal/-EV with the given dead cards?

No need to point out my mistake on 6th street. I now know through two dimes that I should have capped 6th even after villian tells me he has 4 to a 7.

Razz (converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___raises___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___raises

4th Street - (9.20 SB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (5.60 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (7.60 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___raises

River - (11.60 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks

Total pot: (11.60 BB)

[Jigsaws]

I would flat-call his raise on 3rd. No need to build a big pot everybody's tied into.

As played, I think you have the odds to call on 5th, but I'm really not too happy about it.

Like you said, jam 6th.

[*TT*]

1st of all I cannot figure out who was the bring in, why isn't it notated on the chart? I assume there was a seat seven and then seat 8 opened for a raise?

2) I like raising on 3rd, but re-raising is tossing a coin. The villain is either a LAG or announcing (and overplaying) that he has (A2) in the hole, and you are literally a 50/50 equity split which means you can find a fold on the next street if you catch bad - therefore raising is just pumping the pot when you dont have any edge at all.

3) Fold 4th street as advised above. Its not an easy fold, but you just lost your pot equity edge.

I wont even discuss the later streets... you mangled this one pretty bad on 5th street (the third street raise was a minor mistake, 4th street is a common enough mistake that its not as horrible as it might seem).

And I dont see 6th street as a JAM at all unless he is a LAG , or your positive he has a duce in the hole - link.. I assumed he has (A3) for this sim, since his 3rd street action dictates he was strong - you are a medium favorite at best, but the river can easily turn the tide and we already know the villain will fight back. If however you feel the villain wont don this with anything less than (A2) in the hole than Jam away because you already won the hand.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

[SplawnDarts]

I like the raise 3rd - I do it 100% of the time. Might stick him to the hand if he catches bad 4th, which is huge money.

You need to fold 4th, and 5th for sure unless you're sure he has a 2 in the hole, which I would not be most of the time.

[betgo]

Probably better to flat call 3rd. If you are the better player, it is better not to make the pot huge. Your advantage is very slight and the reraise announces your cards.

Once the pot is capped, 4th and 5th are easy calls. Even with a single reraise, very easy call on 4th.

I would 3-bet 6th, since you are at worst a 4-3 favorite.

Then check call the river, as played.

[*TT*]

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Once the pot is capped, 4th and 5th are easy calls. Even with a single reraise, very easy call on 4th.

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I think this is a mistake. Please show why you think its a very easy call, and I can show why its not.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

[Ralph Wiggum]

Isn't Hero like a 3:1 dog on 4th, but getting 10:1. On fifth, he's getting 6:1.

[Slide]

Sorry I didn't realize the converter missed the bring-in. We are seven handed and the J brought it in to my right.I was first act.

TT- After showing me I am a favourite on 6th, I'm confused why you think calling is better. Given the size of the pot, I'm calling 7th almost 100% without a really strong read. Why not get as much money in as the favourite as possible?

[SplawnDarts]

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Sorry I didn't realize the converter missed the bring-in. We are seven handed and the J brought it in to my right.I was first act.

TT- After showing me I am a favourite on 6th, I'm confused why you think calling is better. Given the size of the pot, I'm calling 7th almost 100% without a really strong read. Why not get as much money in as the favourite as possible?

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That's sound thinking. Regardless of what else happened, you can jam 6th.

[betgo]

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Isn't Hero like a 3:1 dog on 4th, but getting 10:1. On fifth, he's getting 6:1.

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Hero is about 28% on 4th and 31% on 5th. On 5th, it seems unlikely the 2 paired villain, but you don't know that on 4th. If it did, you are of course the favorite.