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Old 02-03-2007, 11:02 AM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Full 40/80 live. Villain is Roc. I've never played with him before today, but from what I've seen of him on Live at the Bike and based on what other people have posted about him is that he's super aggro. This seemed to be especially true on small bet streets where I thought he basically didn't believe anyone could possibly play a good hand strong, but he also seemed more than willing to give plenty of action on the big bet streets. Our history is that I pulled a zany turn 4bet bluff that didn't work, so I got to show it down.

UTG limps, Roc raises in MP, a guy coldcalls, I call in the sb with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], UTG calls.

Flop:
Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Check to Roc he bets, coldcaller folds, I call, UTG folds.

Turn:
K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I checkraise, he calls.

River:
A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I check

So basically, do you think this is the best line? Anyone like a turn bet/3bet? Just bet the river and hope he's got a raising hand so I can get 3bets? I can say pretty confidently that I could probably hold a gun to his head and table my hand and he still wouldn't fold an Ace after my crazy bluff earlier, I'm guessing he's going nowhere with a King either, so scaring him out isn't really much of a concern.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:34 AM
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i'd much rather bet the river and hope he raises
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:18 PM
UtzChips UtzChips is offline
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I think a "super-aggressive" player who "gives a lot of action on the later streets" should be bet into on the Turn.
I don't believe I'd ever consider checking the River. If he's got something strong, he just may re-raise. I can't see risking losing a bet on the River with a check.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:20 PM
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river is an easy bet 3 bet situation. He may try to represent a hand, or simply raise for value on the river.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:06 AM
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Yes, bet and let him "value" raise or bluff raise. Check is bad here for metagame too. He isn't totally dumb and will learn to check behind and you definitely don't want that. I've earned so much action from him I'd get called down by any pair on this board I think.

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Old 02-04-2007, 04:56 AM
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Cant believe you checked the river, definetely bet/3-bet here.
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:29 AM
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...bet turn/bet river.

I like that you went for the overcall on the flop against this type of opponent. Many have the tendency to meet aggro with aggro with the hand you flopped. I like your play here.
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:36 AM
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bet the river.

and is roc this bald headed dude who thinks he is all that?
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Old 02-04-2007, 01:37 PM
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CDC - yes though not sure where you saw him.

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Old 02-04-2007, 08:12 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
CDC - yes though not sure where you saw him.

-DeathDonkey

[/ QUOTE ]

think i've played with him at a trip to ocean's 11 and i saw him get BUSTO'd at 1/2 at bay101.
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