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#13
02-02-2007, 04:59 PM
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Re: Set - value bet or check behind against 4 opponents and drawy boar
wow, bet the turn, bet the river. that is playing scared.
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#14
02-02-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: Set - value bet or check behind against 4 opponents and drawy boar
I probably check turn against three opponents, but river is easy easy bet.
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#16
02-03-2007, 11:43 PM
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Re: Set - value bet or check behind against 4 opponents and drawy board
Wow...maybe I'm a bit aggressive but on a loose small stakes table you can get action with anything. Three diamonds doesn't mean anybody's got a flush, but if you let somebody draw cheaply to that 4th diamond you have made a HUGE mistake in terms of EV. If somebody has hit their flush you have 10 outs for a boat. If you are check-raised, then at least you know where you stand and you can check-call the river. I think charging somebody for that 1 card flush draw is much more important then fearing one more bet on the turn, especially considering you have a nice re-draw. Especially with top set, I raise until they won't let me anymore..then I try to raise some more [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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#17
02-03-2007, 11:49 PM
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Re: Set - value bet or check behind against 4 opponents and drawy board
Sets are kinda funny. They are very strong hands, but not so strong that they will hold up to a slowplay (not that you should be slowplaying anything in a weak small stakes game). In addition, their redraws are HUGE, and most people with the nut flush in a small stakes game might even re-raise you if you hit your boat. HUGE EV when you are playing agianst fish. I love flopping sets, I would actually much rather flop a top set then I would a flush and a hell of a lot more then I would a straight. I always win bigger pots and I feel like I win more often (that second part could be psychological though, I have no facts on that).
DW
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#18
02-04-2007, 01:31 PM
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Re: Set - value bet or check behind against 4 opponents and drawy board
*grunch*
Always, always value bet. I see at least eight big bets in the pot on the turn, and you just can't let someone draw out on you for free. Even if you get check-raised, you have a ten out draw to beat someone with a flush. Bet the river. I don't know if I fold to a check-raise here. It would have to be a super tricky opponent capable of checking a flush twice. Hope someone didn't fill up with 98.
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#19
02-04-2007, 02:33 PM
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Re: Set - value bet or check behind against 4 opponents and drawy board
I'd bet the turn nearly always. I'd only check if I stroke out in the middle of the hand and am having trouble clicking my mouse. Even then, I'll probably bet the turn about half the time.
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#20
02-04-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: Set - value bet or check behind against 4 opponents and drawy boar
[ QUOTE ]
Preflop: Hero is Button with 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero raises pre-flop, with 5-6 callers. Flop: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] MP bets, 3 callers, Hero raises, all 4 players call. Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Line Check. I decide to check behind on button fearing a check-raise, since one of my 4 opponents HAS to have 2 diamonds, right? Hoping to fill up on river cheaply. River: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Check, check, check, check. Value bet or check behind? Comments on turn and river appreciated. [/ QUOTE ] Someone has the nuts. Prob better to just open fold!
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