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Old 02-03-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

Does this put the "P.U." in "spew"? Cuz it sure seems stinky. Villain is an unknown 18/7/1.5 for full ring.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($905)
CO ($2703.94)
Button ($1012.25)
SB ($1465.75)
Hero ($990)
UTG ($572.75)
UTG+1 ($1009.50)
MP1 ($420)
MP2 ($2004.21)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $135</font>, Hero calls $130, Button folds.

Flop: ($320) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $250</font>, Hero is all-in $850.

Seems awful right?

Here's equity against a range that might reraise preflop and bet the flop:

Board: Ah 6h 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.565% 51.13% 00.44% 36951 315.00 { ThTs }
Hand 1: 48.435% 48.00% 00.44% 34689 315.00 { 66+, 22, AQs+, AQo+ }

But what calls?

Board: Ah 6h 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.004% 35.00% 00.00% 13515 0.00 { ThTs }
Hand 1: 64.996% 65.00% 00.00% 25095 0.00 { AA, KcKh, KdKh, KhKs, QcQh, QdQh, QhQs, JcJh, JdJh, JhJs, 66, 22, AQs+, AKo, AcQh, AdQh, AhQc, AhQd, AsQh }

We still have 35% equity against a range that would call the all-in - sets, KKh, QQh, JJh, AK, AQs and AQh.

Thoughts?
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

i think a call does you just as much as a push
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

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i think a call does you just as much as a push

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Old 02-03-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

NO noN BROTHERS IN THE BROTHERS ROOM
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

I think you have a very interesting point.

even, i would not make this move. you are a great dog to a lot of hands, also a significant dog against another lot of hands.

His flop raise means to me he has an ace/high kicker and dont want you to see more hearts. also he is surely calling with that.

Anyways i really like your point and analisys.
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

Is preflop standard against 18/7 at FR? Are these guys ever squeezing?
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

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NO noN BROTHERS IN THE BROTHERS ROOM

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lol
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

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NO noN BROTHERS IN THE BROTHERS ROOM

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lol

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Old 02-03-2007, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

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{ AA, KcKh, KdKh, KhKs, QcQh, QdQh, QhQs, JcJh, JdJh, JhJs, 66, 22, AQs+, AKo, AcQh, AdQh, AhQc, AhQd, AsQh }

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I think you meant 33 but typoed. That changes you to a 3:1 dog. Also I don't get the point of the first simulation.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Spew or a Hidden +EV Spot?

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Is preflop standard against 18/7 at FR? Are these guys ever squeezing?

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First thing that came to my mind.
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