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Old 02-02-2007, 06:19 PM
Smasharoo Smasharoo is offline
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How do I know if its ethical for me to eat a cow or not?


Well, of course you wouldn't. Ethics are completely arbitrary.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:20 PM
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Do we need some refined statutes to prevent any further eating of cows in order to progress more ethically?


Well if it were less ethical to eat cows we would. By definition, no?

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How do I know if its ethical for me to eat a cow or not?

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If the government imprisons you for it, it's unethical.
Otherwise, it's ethical.

After all, enforcing ethics and morality is a legitimate function of government, right?

Yes, I'm being sarcastic.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:30 PM
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After all, enforcing ethics and morality is a legitimate function of government, right?


Of course it is.



Yes, I'm being sarcastic.


I'm not.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:45 PM
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After all, enforcing ethics and morality is a legitimate function of government, right?


Of course it is.



Yes, I'm being sarcastic.


I'm not.

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LOL. At least you're honest.
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:33 PM
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"If men were angels, no government would be necessary."

How many of you actively disagree with the above quote? Apparently, as humanity becomes more educated, ethically advanced, etc. etc. this would seem to imply that government would become less and less necessary and pervasive. Yet of course this is the opposite of what actually seems to occur. What is the explanation?

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Government control and increase in "humanity" are inversly related. Over the past 2000 years the decrease in central control has led to an increase in the standard of living.

We can not increase government controls and assume that it will ever make the standard of living better.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: should government decrease as humanity improves?

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After all, enforcing ethics and morality is a legitimate function of government, right?


Of course it is.



Yes, I'm being sarcastic.


I'm not.

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I think this is one of the most absurd things I've read in a while, and that you should start a new OP explaining these claims.
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:55 AM
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Government control and increase in "humanity" are inversly related. Over the past 2000 years the decrease in central control has led to an increase in the standard of living.

We can not increase government controls and assume that it will ever make the standard of living better.

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How exactly has central control decreased?
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:15 AM
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"If men were angels, no government would be necessary."

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People (irrespective of individual purchasing power) have inalienable rights, and so "to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed" (irrespective of individual purchasing power).

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LOL. As opposed to those who claim that people may or may not have inalienable rights, depending on their individual purchasing power?
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:10 AM
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I think this is one of the most absurd things I've read in a while, and that you should start a new OP explaining these claims.


That it's government's job to enforce ethics and morals? It's the foundation of the entire legal system, it'd be a boring post and a short debate.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:15 AM
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I think this is one of the most absurd things I've read in a while, and that you should start a new OP explaining these claims.


That it's government's job to enforce ethics and morals? It's the foundation of the entire legal system, it'd be a boring post and a short debate.

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Which legal system? China's?
I don't think an attempted explaination of this claim would be boring at all.
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