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Old 02-01-2007, 12:26 AM
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...for invading a sovereign nation, ruthlessly killing innocent women and children, etc...

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"sovereign" nation?

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Why would the CSA not be considered a sovereign nation?
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Should Robert E. Lee be considered a war criminal?

You gotta win a war before you're a sovereign nation. Till then you're just a bunch or rebels/traitors.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Should Robert E. Lee be considered a war criminal?

Not when you're a sovereign State in a federal Union supposedly deriving its powers from the consent of the governed.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:33 AM
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Not when you're a sovereign State in a federal Union supposedly deriving its powers from the consent of the governed.

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Lol at federalism.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:35 AM
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Not when you're a sovereign State in a federal Union supposedly deriving its powers from the consent of the governed.

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Lol at federalism.

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Yeah, would it had never been tried. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Old 02-01-2007, 12:41 AM
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I just don't understand why you guys hate freedom so much...
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:47 AM
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I just don't understand why you guys hate freedom so much...

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Leveling?
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:34 AM
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Not when you're a sovereign State in a federal Union supposedly deriving its powers from the consent of the governed.

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Old 02-01-2007, 12:59 AM
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You gotta win a war before you're a sovereign nation. Till then you're just a bunch or rebels/traitors.

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Actually many of the founding fathers are on record of saying that if a state wants to leave the union, it should be allowed to. I'll look for a source.
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Old 02-01-2007, 01:09 AM
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You gotta win a war before you're a sovereign nation. Till then you're just a bunch or rebels/traitors.

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Actually many of the founding fathers are on record of saying that if a state wants to leave the union, it should be allowed to. I'll look for a source.

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Found it here.
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According to the theory of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and John C. Calhoun, the states had entered into an agreement from which they might withdraw if other parties broke the terms of agreement, and they remained sovereign.

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That way you guys can at least stop snickering at the fact that in the South most people refer to it as "the war of northern agression".

The civil war was about consolidation to a monolithic American government and mercantilism. It's a joke that Abraham Lincoln is thought of as a good president in history books. And before you say "but he freed the slaves", the civil war wasn't about that. Also in Europe slavery was magically solved without a horrific war, here it cost us >900,000 lives and any semblence of state's rights.
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