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#54
01-31-2007, 08:13 PM
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Re: Why can\'t one be proud to be a straight white male
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So because your the same color as other people that have helped build said societies you are suddenly included as contributing to it? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, some people identify with their ancestors. Go figure. I know it would be more fun if we all got here by some star trek type morphing machine, but that ain't how it works. 
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#55
01-31-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: Why can\'t one be proud to be a straight white male
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[ QUOTE ] However, I also see Degen's point that if a college group was formed today with a goal of "white empowerment" that school could expect a visit from Jesse Jackson. I think this is due to the perception that White Men don't need to advance, they already have a huge head start. [/ QUOTE ] The other problem is -- and I understand some people are solely interested in being prideful of their own heritage, and certainly harbor no ill will to others -- but one issue with "white empowerment movements" is that the only people currently talking about "white empowerment" just so happen to be the types of people who live in Aryan Nation compounds in Idaho or who blowup federal buildings Oklahoma City. Whether it's fair or not, any "white power" movement probably stands a good chance to get lumped in with those guys. [/ QUOTE ] Sad indeed. Both ignorance and bigotry wrapped in one tidy little post.
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#56
01-31-2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: Why can\'t one be proud to be a white male
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So, I suppose you could be proud of being a white male specifically, but what exactly are you celebrating? [/ QUOTE ] Building the bulk of Western civilization. That's all. Pick up any history text from before 1970 and you'll see much about the white male. After that it seems that history 'changed'. [/ QUOTE ] On the back of a world which owes much to arabs, asians and africans...... [/ QUOTE ] I think I'll spend next year as a self-loathing white man just to see how the other half lives.
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#57
01-31-2007, 08:26 PM
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Re: Why can\'t one be proud to be a straight white male
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] However, I also see Degen's point that if a college group was formed today with a goal of "white empowerment" that school could expect a visit from Jesse Jackson. I think this is due to the perception that White Men don't need to advance, they already have a huge head start. [/ QUOTE ] The other problem is -- and I understand some people are solely interested in being prideful of their own heritage, and certainly harbor no ill will to others -- but one issue with "white empowerment movements" is that the only people currently talking about "white empowerment" just so happen to be the types of people who live in Aryan Nation compounds in Idaho or who blowup federal buildings Oklahoma City. Whether it's fair or not, any "white power" movement probably stands a good chance to get lumped in with those guys. [/ QUOTE ] Sad indeed. Both ignorance and bigotry wrapped in one tidy little post. [/ QUOTE ] You know alot of reputable folks in white empowerment movements, do you?
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#58
01-31-2007, 08:29 PM
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Re: Exact same probability prior to the event
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Once again, with a Central European accent: Why wooldyoo wannta be prroud for something that's got nuthn tado with yoo? [/ QUOTE ] You forgot the English and Welsh accents, because that's where my other two grandparents are from. I could be proud to be English/Welsh/Slovakian/Hungarian but that would be too long. Of course I could just call myself European, which I often do, but it's much more fun to use white because of how it gets guys like you riled up.
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#59
01-31-2007, 08:33 PM
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Re: Why can\'t one be proud to be a straight white male
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You know alot of reputable folks in white empowerment movements, do you? [/ QUOTE ] Well, there's the GOP. I suppose they count as reputable.
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#60
01-31-2007, 08:51 PM
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Re: Why can\'t one be proud to be a straight white male
I think there are very few people that would suggest that you should be ashamed of being a straight white male. The reason being is that most people in America are straight and white.
I think the distinction that has already been made is that when people talk about gay "pride" and black "pride", they are really talking about not being ashamed of who and what they are, and I think that it is safe to say that engrained in our society, which is changing, is that people that are gay or black are somehow inferior to people that are straight or white.
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