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Razz - Value river raise
Only question in hand is if the river raise is fairly standard and if there are times when this is just a call.
Also if a crying call to a reraise is justified. Razz ($1/$2), Ante $0.10 (converter) 3rd Street - (0.80 SB) Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises Seat 6: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds 4th Street - (5.30 SB) Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds Seat 3: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___folds Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises 5th Street - (4.65 BB) Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls 6th Street - (6.65 BB) Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls River - (8.65 BB) Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets___calls Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises Total pot: (12.65 BB) |
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
looks good, I raise here every time except vs. the tightest of players, and I'm gone by 5th against them anyway.
Easy muck to a 3 bet against a normal player. If you are going to call 3 bets, don't raise. |
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
to answer your question, given the play so far and your read on him, a raise is justified and a fold to a 3 bet is an easy one with your board. you may want to evaluate when a raise was correct on all the other streets too.
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
Borderline raise for me vs. the A-3-4 board. The only thing I like is that the 2's are pretty much dead.
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
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If you are going to call 3 bets, don't raise. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree with this. There are several situations where folding to a 3-bet is the correct play. |
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
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[ QUOTE ] If you are going to call 3 bets, don't raise. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree with this. There are several situations where folding to a 3-bet is the correct play. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, folding to three bets is the correct play. Therefore If you ARE NOT going to fold to three bets, don't raise. (Didn't I already say that?) |
#7
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
You did, and I still disagree. I think there are situations where a raise is warranted AND a 3-bet fold is warranted. Skalnsky talks about it in SOP. Generally I would agree with you, but there are situations where you can profitably raise (as a bluff) and have to fold to a 3-bet.
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you are going to call 3 bets, don't raise. [/ QUOTE ] I don't agree with this. There are several situations where folding to a 3-bet is the correct play. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, folding to three bets is the correct play. Therefore If you ARE NOT going to fold to three bets, don't raise. (Didn't I already say that?) [/ QUOTE ] I think you two are in violent agreement |
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
i would have to go with the safe play and call here. Theres one 2, one 5 and two 6's showing (i think, took a quick look cuase im at work), he has an a34 showing and if he made a 7 high, chances are he made it with a 5. You actually should have folded on 6th when you got the king.
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Re: Razz - Value river raise
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I think you two are in violent agreement [/ QUOTE ] Probably [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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