river trips, line check 200nl

[faded]

yeah, pf is pretty standard for me. i think folding pf is pretty nitty

[Fistdantilus]

The flop raise makes no sense to me, unless you know a K or J hits the turn or river. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Because if he has an overpair, your hand looks like a total bluff and he pays you off (and the stack sizes are awkward after his ill-advised river value bet). But if he has AJ, he checks turn because he's scared of 2pr/set/overpr and calls you down on the river because you didn't follow-up your flop action by continuing the turn betting and thus lost most of your FE. OTOH, if he has an overpair he's probably CRAI on the turn which saved you by checking.

Bottom line: your flop raise goofed the remaining streets and basically made you play for stacks with TPGK... which is an argument for folding PF.

[Mossberg]

PF is a fold. Not only do we need to worry about domination from UTG, but we also need to consider that we have 3 to act behind us. KJ is a marginal hand as is, and you want to enter this flop with no reads on your opponents preflop or postflop tendencies? There may be times when it's correct, but calling here as a routine seems bad.

As mentioned above, the flop raise is really bad. It doesn't really accomplish anything at all.

[rode]

would pf change anything, if the raise comes from mp3?