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Old 01-27-2007, 04:42 PM
snakekilla88 snakekilla88 is offline
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Default Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

Pretty new to the table (about 20 hands in). Have a pretty tight image. No reads I guess.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($1000)
MP ($617.95)
Button ($1092.25)
Hero ($1068)
BB ($349.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $96</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $66.

Flop: ($202) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $144</font>, Button calls $144.

Turn: ($490) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $828 (All-In)</font>

I made the mistake of not 3betting right amount. He said that he 3xBB in position and 4xBB OOP. O well.

I usually give up on this turn with these stack sizes. My coach said a push would be sexy. I was like wtf at the time but still did it. After looking at hand, I think its an interesting move I dont think I would ever do a move like this on my own. Thoughts?
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:58 PM
wpr101 wpr101 is offline
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

I don't like it so much. Did your coach give any more explanation? Who is your coach btw?
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

Readless this is bad
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:31 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

Do you ever make this play with a made hand?
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

I don't like this at all
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:49 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

with a tight image, its toeing the line of being alright.

but, looks a little too spewy to do on more than a very occasional basis. helps to be against a player who can fold KK or AQ here (there arent too many of those around these days, it turns out)
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

is it any wonder noones folding aq or kk here these days when so many like OP are refusing to give up on 3 bet pots at any stage during the hand!?

fwiw i think shove might work here but is definitely -EV
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

i think fold the turn. or at the very least, don't overbet the pot...right now, you're losing to a pair of 3's. this is difficult b/c the flop gave you the straight draw but i don't think push is the right answer here.
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

boo

his calling range on the flop w/o reads=stuff that has you destroyed
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Turn overbet in a raised pot....(1knl)

I'd much prefer this if you'd 3bet properly preflop and stacks were more accomodating. I feel you need to shove here a small % of the time though if you're playing vs decent players (but since you had no read, c/f).
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