Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes Limit
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-27-2007, 12:01 AM
Brain Brain is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,364
Default too aggressive from a blind?

I'm not sure if I'm being too aggressive from the blinds/OOP or not. I've been doing a lot of b/f'ing tonight. Sat down recently and all I have on villain is 19/0/0.8 over 24 hands. Not much to go on.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-27-2007, 12:04 AM
Big Folder Big Folder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Hastings 3L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posts: 620
Default Re: too aggressive from a blind?

looks fine to me. I think the flop bet is good. You hit the board and are second to act against 3 players. If someone doesn't have the ace they'll lay it down(likely). Might as well bet.

Turn is fine. Ace would scare away a lot of people, but he's raising. He probably had a weak ace on the flop, but those are the breaks. Good fold, if he's bluffing here more power to him.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-27-2007, 12:45 AM
DrModern DrModern is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: O.K., so I\'m a fratboy
Posts: 2,463
Default Re: too aggressive from a blind?

The flop bet is pretty questionable.

Serious "yuck" on the turn bet. I check-fold it after getting called on the flop.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-27-2007, 12:57 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: trying to 363 u
Posts: 14,916
Default Re: too aggressive from a blind?

Flop bet absolutely wonderful (with any two cards). Check fold the turn though. I know you don't have many stats on the guy but what you have so far indicates he is likely tight. He can't exactly peel with much on that board, and if he has a 5 somehow he's not going to fold once another ace falls.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-27-2007, 01:04 AM
DrModern DrModern is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: O.K., so I\'m a fratboy
Posts: 2,463
Default Re: too aggressive from a blind?

[ QUOTE ]
Flop bet absolutely wonderful (with any two cards).

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey Miles,

Would you mind explaining your thinking here? Seems counterintuitive to me and I'd like to know more. (Not being sarcastic in any way.)

--Doc
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-27-2007, 01:11 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: trying to 363 u
Posts: 14,916
Default Re: too aggressive from a blind?

There was one open limper in late position, and the small blind completed.

The flop comes A45, leaving thousands of hands with nothing but undercard draws. For the limper, KQ KJ KT K9 QJ QT Q9 JT J9 plus a million more. The small blind has almost any two cards (so there are even more hands that have absolutely nothing on the flop). He did not bet at the pot, which is another reason you should think he has nothing.

It's simply the odds - really not too complicated. If they both fold over 25% of the time, you profit. I think they'll both fold 40-50% of the time. Even if one calls, you still likely have a 5 outer and your implied odds should be positive since you will not put any more money into the pot unless you improve. Note this isn't the case with hero in this hand, but he will learn.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-27-2007, 01:17 AM
DrModern DrModern is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: O.K., so I\'m a fratboy
Posts: 2,463
Default Re: too aggressive from a blind?

[ QUOTE ]
There was one open limper in late position, and the small blind completed.

The flop comes A45, leaving thousands of hands with nothing but undercard draws. For the limper, KQ KJ KT K9 QJ QT Q9 JT J9 plus a million more. The small blind has almost any two cards (so there are even more hands that have absolutely nothing on the flop). He did not bet at the pot, which is another reason you should think he has nothing.

It's simply the odds - really not too complicated. If they both fold over 25% of the time, you profit. I think they'll both fold 40-50% of the time. Even if one calls, you still likely have a 5 outer and your implied odds should be positive since you will not put any more money into the pot unless you improve. Note this isn't the case with hero in this hand, but he will learn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, dude. Also, happy birthday!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-27-2007, 01:48 AM
Brain Brain is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,364
Default Re: too aggressive from a blind?

[ QUOTE ]
There was one open limper in late position, and the small blind completed.

The flop comes A45, leaving thousands of hands with nothing but undercard draws. For the limper, KQ KJ KT K9 QJ QT Q9 JT J9 plus a million more. The small blind has almost any two cards (so there are even more hands that have absolutely nothing on the flop). He did not bet at the pot, which is another reason you should think he has nothing.

It's simply the odds - really not too complicated. If they both fold over 25% of the time, you profit. I think they'll both fold 40-50% of the time. Even if one calls, you still likely have a 5 outer and your implied odds should be positive since you will not put any more money into the pot unless you improve. Note this isn't the case with hero in this hand, but he will learn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Lord, I hope so. I bet the turn because the second ace meant there was a lesser probability of having an ace out, distribution, yadda yadda. I was probably c/f almost anything else, especially paint.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.