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#21
01-26-2007, 03:20 PM
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Re: KK vs AA. who else is getting stacked here
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] At less than 150 BBs virtually everyone is getting stacked here, unless you are playing the most passive opponent in the world or have an incredible read. Your mentor is way too hard. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this is true at all. The passiveness in most small stakes live games makes it pretty clear when a villain is holding AA in a spot like this. [/ QUOTE ] I defer to the live game player. I have about 15 hours' B&M experience. I might investigate though: I could clean up if everyone folds to a 4-bet unless they have AA. [/ QUOTE ] lol, live games are really soft, but just because noone 4-bets without AA, that doesn't imply that most oppponents will fold when they do. [/ QUOTE ] As long as the good ones fold. 
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01-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Re: KK vs AA. who else is getting stacked here
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Oneida Casino in Green Bay, Wisconsin. [/ QUOTE ] LOL - I almost have to know you.
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#27
01-26-2007, 06:23 PM
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Re: KK vs AA. who else is getting stacked here
[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] what's wrong w/ stacking off 60bbs w/ KK. Call 100 more to hit a set w/ a 300 stack? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
I think you need to find another mentor.
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#28
01-26-2007, 06:45 PM
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Re: KK vs AA. who else is getting stacked here
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I feel sick today Sad. I have been playing NL only like 5 months so far and had my biggest loss (on a single hand). I have had 5-6 players comment saying that there was nothing I could do. I have had 1 player (my mentor, who is an awesome player) say that there is no way he stacks off on that flop. I did play it horribly but just wanted to make sure. What say you 2+2. Game: 300$ NL (2-5 blinds) Villain is decent, has been catching numerous flops and has a huge stack (about 2000$). Hero has 700$ behind. Hero is in BB with KK (suit not important in this hand). Villain is MP1 Preflop: UTG limps, UTG+1 limps,Villain raises to 15 , CO calls 15, Hero raises to 75, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds,Villain reraises to 175,Hero calls. Hero's thinking preflop: Does he has AA here. should i go all in. I cant possibly go all in because he only calls with AA there..f*** it. I call... Flop: 4c-7d-10s Hero thinks...awesome flop....get it in... Hero checks, Villain bets 125, Hero reraises all in, Villain insta calls. Horrible play by me. 5-6 other players comments: Nothing you can do here. one of them hands you go broke with...blah blah My Mentor: When you raised big to 75 and he reraises you to 175, ONLY 1 HAND is going to do that. Now you can call the 100 more to try to hit your set or check fold the flop. You CANNOT stack off given that kinda information in preflop. Bells should be ringing in your head when your 75$ reraise gets reraised to a 100$ more. What would most of you have done ? I feel so sick and disgusted at my immature play [/ QUOTE ] Eh It's 140bbs. inevitable with this flop.
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#30
01-26-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: KK vs AA. who else is getting stacked here
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[ QUOTE ] Eh It's 140bbs. inevitable with this flop. [/ QUOTE ] Oh it's 300NL w/ 700 effective stacks. If you put him on exactly AA the preflop call is still slightly -EV. [/ QUOTE ] Just because an unknown 4bets doesn't mean he has exactly AA. Stacking off here is fine.
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