27s: too weak?

ajizzle · #1 01-26-2007, 03:20 PM

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1380)
UTG+1 (t1690)
MP1 (t1490)
MP2 (t1470)
CO (t1480)
Hero (t2930)
SB (t1580)
BB (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to t100, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero calls t100, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t80

Flop: (t330) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t100, UTG folds, MP1 calls t100

Turn: (t530) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets t200, Hero calls t200

River: (t930) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets t1090 (All-in), Hero folds

FeNeF · #2 01-26-2007, 03:38 PM

The flop bet is pathetic. t200 at the very least. The rest of the hand is really weird because of that, but I guess it's good (?)

alanbrown · #3 01-26-2007, 03:41 PM

yes. Much too weak. PF is fine. you should have bet 200 at least on the flop and you should have made a decent reraise on the turn. Maybe raised it to 600. But you've got yourself in a pickle by the river. He could well be holding JT and you gave him way too much time to catch up.

AMT · #4 01-26-2007, 03:45 PM

im leading flop for 225ish.

Hercules · #5 01-26-2007, 03:46 PM

Stop making gaybets. Do you ever expect anybody to fold to a 1/3 bet?

Bet 300 and go broke. Unless you have a read on Villain you are supposed to go broke here. Ok his play gets really weird and in my eyes it looks like a donkey line with QQ. But that doesnt change the general play in spots like this one.
If you think he has AA/KK, the obv fold PF. If not, you have to go broke on this flop, unless you`re playing against a good reg.

ajizzle · #6 01-26-2007, 04:05 PM

i agree with all posts, that t200 on the flop is a superior play.

in playing lots of the 16s and now lots of 27s, i find that this sort of line almost always a strong hand. Not sure exactly what his holding is, but the range here is QQ, KQ, and AK, (possibly KK). His pf raise and check/calling the flop lead me to believe this. If I am correct, I can only tie by calling the all-in. easy fold

Mike MacIntosh · #7 01-26-2007, 04:22 PM

PF, excellent call.

Flop, terrible bet. Bet 2/3 of the pot here. You need to extract value and protect yourself from being drawn out on. A t100 bet accomplishes neither.

Turn, RAISE for the same reasons mention for the flop.

River, we have both the flop and turn and still have no idea where we are at in this hand. Villain could have easily called w/ Qx on the flop or floated us with air. We have no way of telling because of these small bets that reveal little to nothing about our opponent's hand.

Oxota · #8 01-26-2007, 06:42 PM

Ok, i like the preflop call, but 100 on the flop??? I bet 250 there. Your bets gave no information about his hand whatsoever, which is why it's such a hard situation. I think the river is still a call though.