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#61
01-25-2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
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[ QUOTE ] What hands are you raising in EP that you fold to a re-raise? [/ QUOTE ] AJ/AQ/KQ/SCs/22-99 [/ QUOTE ] Hmm, I don't raise SC's in EP. Agreed on KQ-AJ-AQ. About the small pairs: with $100 stacks, you raise to $4, 35/18 re-raises to $10, do you auto-fold? If not, what is the most important: bet size / opponent's postflop play / position / something else? 
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#62
01-25-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
In 6-max I am raising but generally folding to a 3-bet (if the re-raiser hasn't been getting out of line): small pocket pairs, KQs, AJ,AQ. LAGs who have a wider raising range in EP would have more hands they are laying down I would think, as Dan Bitel's response seems to suggest.
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#63
01-25-2007, 06:24 PM
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Do you realize how retarded that is? [/ QUOTE ] Good example of the counterproductive hostility that we're talking about. This is the kind of thing that I think warrants a 1-day ban. It's possible to have vigorous & empassioned debate without insulting people. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
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#64
01-25-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
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Hmm, I don't raise SC's in EP. Agreed on KQ-AJ-AQ. About the small pairs: with $100 stacks, you raise to $4, 35/18 re-raises to $10, do you auto-fold? If not, what is the most important: bet size / opponent's postflop play / position / something else? [/ QUOTE ] Good point: I wouldn't generally fold if it isn't a reasonably sized 3-bet. In your example, definitely not. I would decide based on opponent tendencies/recent history and on stack sizes compared to size of the raise but being OOP makes me reluctant to call (say) a ~pot sized raise without good reason. If he 3-bets light I'd rather fold or 4-bet than call.
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#65
01-25-2007, 06:28 PM
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Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
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[ QUOTE ] What hands are you raising in EP that you fold to a re-raise? [/ QUOTE ] AJ/AQ/KQ/SCs/22-99 [/ QUOTE ] Actually the SCs and PPs might be callable if everything goes just right: relative position, multiway-ness & stack sizes. But 99.5% of the time, they are a fold. Example of possible raise-call: FTP NL100, $200 stacks all around. Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], raises to 4. UTG+1 raises to 8, everyone calls. Here a call is OK. I'm not sure where a push or re-raise fits EV-wise compared to a call...
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#66
01-25-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
I'm kinda surprised you guys would play 76s in EP. Might just be me nitting it up, but I really hate drawing hands OOP.
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#67
01-25-2007, 06:31 PM
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I'm kinda surprised you guys would play 76s in EP. Might just be me nitting it up, but I really hate drawing hands OOP. [/ QUOTE ] 76s is my favorite hand, actually. I won't open with it 100% of the time from UTG, but I would guess that I can open with it about 80% of the time. It depend on stacks & images, both yours & thiers. Edit to add that there is no shame in folding 76s from UTG. It's hard to play OOP postflop.
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#68
01-25-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
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[ QUOTE ] Do you realize how retarded that is? [/ QUOTE ] Good example of the counterproductive hostility that we're talking about. This is the kind of thing that I think warrants a 1-day ban. It's possible to have vigorous & empassioned debate without insulting people. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. [/ QUOTE ] My god, what I said was not an insult. Please calm down FFS.
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#69
01-25-2007, 06:34 PM
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Re: It\'s about time we had this discussion
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[ QUOTE ] I'm kinda surprised you guys would play 76s in EP. Might just be me nitting it up, but I really hate drawing hands OOP. [/ QUOTE ] 76s is my favorite hand, actually. I won't open with it 100% of the time from UTG, but I would guess that I can open with it about 80% of the time. It depend on stacks & images, both yours & thiers. Edit to add that there is no shame in folding 76s from UTG. It's hard to play OOP postflop. [/ QUOTE ] Is there any chance you could give me an idea of your winrate with 76s, 78s, 89s UTG and UTG+1 vs LP? I'm really interested in this, as I always assumed I'd be losing a lot of money playing those hands there. Might depend on whether you're playing in a 19/6 or 45/12 game too.
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