$6.50 HORSE (HE Phase)

Zeldark · #1 01-24-2007, 03:04 AM

I thought I'd drop this down to see what you guys think of it.

PokerStars Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t20 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t1480)
MP2 (t1580)
CO (t1380)
Button (t1520)
Hero (t1540)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8 SB, t160) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB, t220) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks.

River: (5.50 BB, t220) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.5 BB (t300)

J-P · #2 01-24-2007, 03:14 AM

I'm not much of a limit player but I think I play this the exact same way as you did.

Slim Pickens · #3 01-24-2007, 03:17 AM

First of all, kudos for being a real poker player. I'd take anyone (I get to pick) who beats the $6.5 HORSE tournaments against any STTF player (Daliman) in any game (Trivial Pursuit).

You should be betting the turn. There are two reasons for this. First, you could make a player who just turned a pair of jacks fold. Second, you continue to represent an ace to a player with a hand that potentially has odds to draw out on you: KQ, KT, QT. Betting the turn prevents the sticky situation on the river where you're facing a single bet in a decent-sized pot from a player with an ill-defined hand. Bet the turn and check-call a non-threatening river. Bet the turn and bet-fold a scary river.

Zeldark · #4 01-24-2007, 04:23 AM

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First of all, kudos for being a real poker player. I'd take anyone (I get to pick) who beats the $6.5 HORSE tournaments against any STTF player (Daliman) in any game (Trivial Pursuit).

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I'm trying to decide if that's a sarcastic insult for playing at low $6.50 stakes or a compliment that I'm tackling HORSE.

We're done if the turn gets raised yes?

Slim Pickens · #5 01-24-2007, 05:11 PM

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First of all, kudos for being a real poker player. I'd take anyone (I get to pick) who beats the $6.5 HORSE tournaments against any STTF player (Daliman) in any game (Trivial Pursuit).

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I'm trying to decide if that's a sarcastic insult for playing at low $6.50 stakes or a compliment that I'm tackling HORSE.

We're done if the turn gets raised yes?

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It's a compliment to you and a good-natured barb at Daliman's self-proclaimed mastery of Trivial Pursuit. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] My wife plays a lot of the $6.5's on Stars so I've watched a fair number of them.

Fold to a turn or river raise for sure.

jgunnip · #6 01-24-2007, 05:15 PM

Def bet the turn, what's the point in betting the flop if you won't follow up the turn? Look slike BB rivered flush.

Paul B. · #7 01-24-2007, 05:44 PM

No point in betting the turn, especially into two players, when you're gonna get called down or raised by a better hand. I also think the flop bet is marginal.

Slim Pickens · #8 01-24-2007, 06:04 PM

People make some really awful folds at this level as well as often making bad calls. I feel that when you bet the flop, you have to bet the turn. Checking there is giving up completely, and TT is still too good a hand to give up on. A lot of hands that call down are stuff like K8 or 66, where they "just don't believe you" and have to call down.

I'm not a limit expert, but I would guess betting that flop is 100% mandatory.

Phil Van Sexton · #9 01-24-2007, 06:47 PM

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People make some really awful folds at this level as well as often making bad calls. I feel that when you bet the flop, you have to bet the turn. Checking there is giving up completely, and TT is still too good a hand to give up on. A lot of hands that call down are stuff like K8 or 66, where they "just don't believe you" and have to call down.

I'm not a limit expert, but I would guess betting that flop is 100% mandatory.

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Yeah, you have to bet this flop. I'd probably bet the turn too, but that's marginal. In any limit tournament, if I get into pot, I'm jamming until they fold or someone shows me something. The pots are just too big compared to your stack to slow down post-flop.