Top pair no kicker

Chiche · #1 01-24-2007, 04:59 PM

CO is new to the table
BT is 30/7/45

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG, folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.5SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, Hero ???

CO seems to be slow playing. Do you consider folding the turn?

Every post appreciated

danzasmack · #2 01-24-2007, 05:03 PM

why did you check the turn?

jstill · #3 01-24-2007, 05:26 PM

at first i said id check/fold the turn after COs flop cold call since he wont do that with KQ or QJ if hes normal and the only worse hand he should cold call 2 on the flop with T9 just got there.

Then i realized these are all limpers and posters and u have no read at all yet on CO other than he checked his option preflop ( so many Aces are discounted) so Id probably just bet bet.

As played i think u can fold the river though if button is mostly loose passive, its a split at best. what was his AF?

ps why does CO appear to be slowplaying? you have no idea how he plays yet and if he had a big hand he would probably check-raise the turn almost always.

Chiche · #4 01-24-2007, 05:35 PM

I would have bet if I´d succed to push out the CO on the flop. What I was actually considering a that moment was to check-fold a bet from the CO if the BT have called, but CO didn´t bet.

So the CO check and BT bets... But now I´ve to put him on a better hand than mine when he bets. So I just called...

The more I write the more I regret my play... completely missplayed the turn, right?

Chiche · #5 01-24-2007, 05:54 PM

jstill

BT agression factor is 0.66. So yes, you are right he is loose passive and I shoud have folded the turn.

TonyDanza · #6 01-24-2007, 06:29 PM

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at first i said id check/fold the turn after COs flop cold call since he wont do that with KQ or QJ if hes normal and the only worse hand he should cold call 2 on the flop with T9 just got there.

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He could also be calling two cold with QT.

goofball · #7 01-25-2007, 02:48 AM

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why did you check the turn?

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NinaWilliams · #8 01-25-2007, 03:37 AM

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I would have bet if I´d succed to push out the CO on the flop. What I was actually considering a that moment was to check-fold a bet from the CO if the BT have called, but CO didn´t bet.

So the CO check and BT bets... But now I´ve to put him on a better hand than mine when he bets. So I just called...

The more I write the more I regret my play... completely missplayed the turn, right?

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The pot is small, so driving out CO isnt a major concern. I think the best course of action is bet/bet/bet. I also see no reason to put button on a better hand on the turn. This could easily be a J or an 8.

bluf8u · #9 01-25-2007, 03:57 AM

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I think the best course of action is bet/bet/bet.

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akvsaq · #10 01-25-2007, 02:27 PM

I don't like any of this. This is a small pot. How often do you think the button has nothing? I would guess A LOT!
I like the play of just CALLING the flop bet. The CO is getting incorrect odds to call anyway. You gain more by allowing BTN to bluff and and at the same time NOT get outplayed.