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Old 01-23-2007, 06:39 PM
RichC. RichC. is offline
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

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Why carbs only 2 days a week and not 7 days a week if he wants to put on weight?

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It allows you to pack on more lean mass and quality muscle gains. You are basically carb loading those two days. On the other days, your carb intake would be around 90grams and on load days, 200grams or more.
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:20 PM
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Why carbs only 2 days a week and not 7 days a week if he wants to put on weight?

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It allows you to pack on more lean mass and quality muscle gains. You are basically carb loading those two days. On the other days, your carb intake would be around 90grams and on load days, 200grams or more.

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This is bad advice IMO and I will show you why with some math.

I am 175 lbs and want to gain weight so lets pretend I take your advice.

1.5g of protein x 175 = ~265g which is ~1000 calories

90g of carbs (which is not NEAR enough IMO) is 900 calories.

You didn't say how much fat/day but with your food list above I will guess 70g (correct me if I am way off) which = 630 calories

add those up and you get ~2500 calories. I am in the process of putting on weight and need 4000+ calories a day. This is not even close to enough calories. Your plan may work for weight loss, but for putting on quality muscle, enough calories are just as important as enough protein.

Your meal plan looks solid but I just don't see how you can get enough calories to build mass with so few carbs. Even your carb "load" days are not that many carbs. For example I have 20g of simple carbs before and 60 g of simple carbs (dextrose} after my workouts. That is 80 right there and it is only 9 AM by this point in the day.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

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Why carbs only 2 days a week and not 7 days a week if he wants to put on weight?

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It allows you to pack on more lean mass and quality muscle gains. You are basically carb loading those two days. On the other days, your carb intake would be around 90grams and on load days, 200grams or more.

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This is bad advice IMO and I will show you why with some math.

I am 175 lbs and want to gain weight so lets pretend I take your advice.

1.5g of protein x 175 = ~265g which is ~1000 calories

90g of carbs (which is not NEAR enough IMO) is 900 calories.

You didn't say how much fat/day but with your food list above I will guess 70g (correct me if I am way off) which = 630 calories

add those up and you get ~2500 calories. I am in the process of putting on weight and need 4000+ calories a day. This is not even close to enough calories. Your plan may work for weight loss, but for putting on quality muscle, enough calories are just as important as enough protein.

Your meal plan looks solid but I just don't see how you can get enough calories to build mass with so few carbs. Even your carb "load" days are not that many carbs. For example I have 20g of simple carbs before and 60 g of simple carbs (dextrose} after my workouts. That is 80 right there and it is only 9 AM by this point in the day.

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I didnt take the time to do the math, so yes, you need more calories. I prefer to get mine from protein. If you really really want to pack on muscle mass, you should bump up to 2grams per pound body weight. 300g of protein in a day is a ton of protein. I followed that plan I laid out almost precisely and gained about 30lbs of lean muscle but also lost about 30lbs of fat. Thats a huge physique transformation.

You being 175, you need to eat more carbs and lots of protein than i laid out, but just making a few adjustments to what i did will get you to where you want to be at. Me, I was at 225 and got up to 240.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

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I just started about a week ago.

I am stacking Noxplode, Cellmass, and Nitrix.

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Burning money is awesome!
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

makes sense, nice transformation!! I am trying to gain 25 lbs by the summer.
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

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I just started about a week ago.

I am stacking Noxplode, Cellmass, and Nitrix.

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Burning money is awesome!

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If ya got it...spend it
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:54 AM
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Multivitamin - I take Vitamin Shoppe Daily 3
Whey Protein- 100% Optimum Whey Chocolate
Creatine Monohydrate Powder - Mix with gatorade
L Glutamine Powder - Mix with gatorade
Tonalin CLA - Essential Fatty Acid associated with the muscle/fat balance

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That's a good list (although I don't like the Optimum protein.) BCAAs are a good addition.

Some scams to be aware of include nitric oxide, myostatin ("inhibitors"), and methoxy products.
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

I used NOXplode for a few weeks, and definitely noticed a difference. Not only was it a good explosion repellant, but I noticed how much harder I could push myself while exercising. Lifting a lot was still hard, but after what would have been an exhausting set, I found I was ready to work just as hard on the next one.

I don't think it was just placebo effect, either. Early on, I once took the powder and then exercised w/o noticing any difference. I was pretty bummed, till I changed and started biking home, where I found that I could push myself WAY harder on the ride. Turns out I just didn't time the powder right.

Eventually I stopped taking it. It was expensive and I get a little creeped out by supplements. I'm also not sure of all the long-term effects of these random additives, but I have a bad habit of putting Health before Fitness. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

I'm stacking Cell Mass and No-Xplod as well, as I've read a lot of good reviews on it, and I've noticed No Xplod really helps my energy while lifting. I also read that Cell Mass is CEE, a different kind of creatine that allows you to keep more gains even while off of the supplement, as opposed to monohydrate.
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Old 01-24-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: If you are a lifter what supplements do you take?

britdevine,

They aren't effective.
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