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Old 01-22-2007, 11:10 PM
KISS ME KISS ME is offline
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i went to my neteller acc this morning to see as my surprise all my money gone i had 5722$ in it now there is 22$ left i contacted neteller they told me to give them 3 to 5 days for them to investigate...most of the purshases were done at betway.com i dont have acc there but i even contacted them to lock the acc that used my neteller info since if he tried to cashout from there he wont be able too since it takes like 3 or 4 days to do so now its 2 days since this fraud was done to me...

has anyone had something like this happened to them?
does anyone know what the process is or how long it will take for them to refund me ... if they do????
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: NETELLER FRAUD

I posted something similar on Casinomeister yesterday -- http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ges-today.html

"Today, I found the following attempted charges on my Neteller account. All of these attempted charges are fraudulent:

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Jan 21 10:14 Betway $728.00 - USD Declined
Jan 21 10:04 EFT InstaCash-5764 - $816.75 USD Declined
Jan 21 10:04 Fee $66.75 - USD Declined
Jan 21 06:42 Betway $700.00 - USD Declined
Jan 21 01:01 Doyle Brunson Poker Network $300.00 - USD Declined
Jan 21 00:58 Doyle Brunson Poker Network $700.00 - USD Declined

Fortunately all of the charges were declined since US players cannot use Neteller. Neteller sent me a new security code, but will not investigate this further since the charges were all declined. However, I really want to catch this guy. Any ideas on how to do this? I plan to contact the sites he attempted to charge and try to work with them.

Obviously, I am also going to check my computer for viruses and check my other accounts for fraudulent charges."
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:28 AM
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I had $300 transferred from my account in a fraudulent peer to peer transaction that I was lucky enough to catch right away since they email me any time there is a transfer. They locked both accounts and did thier investigation and eventually credited back my $. Not quite the same situation but pretty darn close.
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:59 AM
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yes thats the problem i always get emails of every transactions i make with neteller but not this time i even asked neteller about this they dont know why right now..how come i didnt even get those confirmation emails? none he made also lots of purschases over 10 of them 1st 5 went through for 1000$ each then the 6th was declined then he tried 500$ 1st passed then 2nd decline and he continued till he tried 50$ 2 times and was declined ... so im thinking he or they had my info but had no idea how much money i had but kept trying until declines came up
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:58 PM
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I know of several other folks that this has happened to where betway was the destination for the funds. Some of the commonalities included P* account hacked also and registered email was a gmail account. In pretty much both cases, Neteller was of little help. You best chance is probably to work through your bank.
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:01 PM
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It is highly doubtful you will be refunded.

Their usual stance, which is almost always true, is that the hack was from your end, not theirs.
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:14 PM
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I had $300 transferred from my account in a fraudulent peer to peer transaction that I was lucky enough to catch right away since they email me any time there is a transfer. They locked both accounts and did thier investigation and eventually credited back my $. Not quite the same situation but pretty darn close.

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I had this happen for over 2400 and caught it quickly. They froze the accounts and were only able to retrieve about half. They gave me half back and that was that, no other money given too me.
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:18 PM
Theystolemymoney Theystolemymoney is offline
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i went to my neteller acc this morning to see as my surprise all my money gone i had 5722$ in it now there is 22$ left i contacted neteller they told me to give them 3 to 5 days for them to investigate...most of the purshases were done at betway.com i dont have acc there but i even contacted them to lock the acc that used my neteller info since if he tried to cashout from there he wont be able too since it takes like 3 or 4 days to do so now its 2 days since this fraud was done to me...

has anyone had something like this happened to them?
does anyone know what the process is or how long it will take for them to refund me ... if they do????

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The exact same thing happened to me. I caught it about 30 hours after someone cleaned out my Neteller account to an online sportsbook. I immediately contacted the Neteller investigations department and then immediately contacted the online sportsbook. I communicated on a daily basis with both parties putting them in touch with each other as well. I got my money back after about 3 weeks.

Make sure the betway.com account is locked. That way your money cannot be wagered with or withdrawn. Unfortunately on the Neteller side, they're swamped right now and your fraud case won't get the attention it would've just a few weeks ago. Just stay on them. Be aggressive in getting your money back. The perp most likely had your acct #/secure id/password for a while and probably decided to act now because of the Neteller blow up since they'd be so distracted.

The perp most likely got your personal info from either a keylogger trojan on your machine, or from packet sniffing your email. Neteller emails you your acct # and secure id unencrypted so if someone could see the info in that email alot of times these 2 numbers are all someone needs to empty out your account. Often the name on the Neteller account who's acct # and secure id are being used doesn't even have to match the name on the online gambling (e.g. betway.com) account.

Do a search on my username to research my issue and my security concerns.
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Old 01-23-2007, 06:53 PM
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How is the bank going to help when his money is in his Neteller account??????????
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:10 PM
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How is the bank going to help when his money is in his Neteller account??????????

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Left out some details. The used instacash to pull money out of their back account and transferred it to Betway.
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