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Old 01-22-2007, 01:53 PM
Willd Willd is offline
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Default Turned set vs PFRer - 4 straight on river

Early on in a £2 FO on crypto.

Game #4255668784: Hold'em NL (10/20) - 2007/01/22 - 12:35:35 (ET)
Table "16" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: Hero (1530 in chips)
Seat 2: MP2 (1260 in chips)
Seat 4: hostie (1470 in chips)
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
2 folds
Hero: calls 20
MP2: calls 20
MP3: folds
Villain: raises to 100
3 folds
Hero: calls 80
MP2: calls 80
----- FLOP ----- [6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Hero: checks
MP2: checks
Villain: checks
----- TURN ----- [6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]][2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Hero: bets 180
MP2: folds
Villain: calls 180
----- RIVER ----- [6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Hero: bets 350
Villain: raises to 1190 and is all-in
Hero: calls 840

Should I have bet a bit more on the turn (I bet about half pot) and am I ahead often enough here on the end to make the call? I was getting roughly 2.5-1 on my call and I couldn't really put villain on a hand that made a straight, except maybe 77. He could have had a bigger set on the flop or rivered trip 9s, but I also thought it was possible he could have been playing an overpair badly (this assumption is based on general awful play in these tournaments rather than a particular read)
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:58 PM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: Turned set vs PFRer - 4 straight on river

I bet around 2/3-full pot on the turn.

On the river, I like a check/call if you think he might be FOS.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:10 PM
Looshius Looshius is offline
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Default Re: Turned set vs PFRer - 4 straight on river

I sincerely doubt he has a straight. The most likely scenario is that he is overplaying A 10 or JJ. This really has to be a call. He may have a better set, but if you are going to lead out on the river you have to pay him off with those stack sizes.
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Turned set vs PFRer - 4 straight on river

you lose this hand the vast majority of the time
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Turned set vs PFRer - 4 straight on river

Agreed, with the scare card like that. You should be check/calling if you think he is FOS.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Turned set vs PFRer - 4 straight on river

no, the value bet on the river is good/standard.

once he raises though, vs. an ABC opponent (and people in 2 dollar tournaments play rivers pretty straightforward IMO) you are not winning this hand.
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Turned set vs PFRer - 4 straight on river

77 or QJs?
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