2/4 Huge pot w KJs

Pominos · #1 02-11-2006, 10:58 PM

UTG+1 in this hand is steaming away all his money so fast I've never seen anything like it. The last orbit he has raised every hand pf.
BB seems pretty tight pf but calls down too much from the flop on. Don't have too many hands on him in PT though because of PokerRooms HH problems lately.
UTG is unknown.

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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with :K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] :J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, 4 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 Caps, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (16.5SB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12.25BB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (20.25BB, 4 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero Caps, BB calls, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: 33.25BB

My questions:

Is this attempt to isolate the steaming UTG+1 pf ok with this hand? Does UTG already limping change anything?

How bad is the turn call? Should I keep raising here? At the moment I didn't wanna scare BB and UTG out, since I seem to be holding all the cards here, or possibly hoping for UTG to keep raising it for me.

Nick C · #2 02-11-2006, 11:15 PM

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Is this attempt to isolate the steaming UTG+1 pf ok with this hand? Does UTG already limping change anything?

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Yes. Your hand has great potential and could be best already.

If the isolation works and everyone behind (including UTG) folds, you should plan on calling down unimproved. Or, if you hit the flop, you can play back at the maniac.

If UTG cold-calls preflop and then UTG+1 caps and you go to the flop 3-way and then the flop action goes check, bet, I would probably try to isolate one last time with a raise, whether I caught anything or not.

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How bad is the turn call? Should I keep raising here? At the moment I didn't wanna scare BB and UTG out, since I seem to be holding all the cards here, or possibly hoping for UTG to keep raising it for me.

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I probably would have 3-bet. But I don't think the cold-call is horrible or anything.

I doubt anyone is folding anything that could outdraw you with the maniac at the table (two pair is what I'm talking about -- obviously no one is folding a set), so the question is how to get the most value from your hand.

bungyrocks · #3 02-12-2006, 12:11 AM

personally I like your turn call. sure someone might have 2 pair and boat the river but u make so much in overcalls that its worth it.
If isolating was your plan then it is ok.

Brettster · #4 02-12-2006, 01:26 AM

Grunch*

I dont like to isolate with KJs, maybe A10s but thats stretching. I 3-bet the turn, any flush draws with follow along.

SteveL91 · #5 02-12-2006, 04:26 AM

Given your read, PF is fine... but if you thought he was steaming, why would you take your foot off the gas? Especially with the A of [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] being on the flop, the other players may think it's less likely you have the nut-flush and allow you to collect a couple extra BBs.

newhizzle · #6 02-12-2006, 05:38 AM

i would 3-bet the turn, preflop is fine