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Old 01-22-2007, 04:31 AM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

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PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1425)
UTG+1 (t2090)
MP1 (t1055)
MP2 (t1250)
CO (t1445)
Hero (t2850)
SB (t1430)
BB (t1955)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t50, MP2 calls t50, CO calls t50, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, CO calls t250

Flop: (t775) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t425</font>, CO calls t425

Turn: (t1625) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">CO bets t720 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t720

River: (t3065) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:35 AM
Green Kool Aid Green Kool Aid is offline
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

just push pf.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

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just push pf.

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True story.
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

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just push pf.

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Why ?
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

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just push pf.

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Why you wouldn't use the normal 3BB + 1BB for each limper rule in this hand? Is it the number of callers?

I think the preflop raise is ok. The flop is very scary but a contibet seems ok in position. On the turn you have the nutflushdraw and a gutshot, while against QJ you are drawing dead. I wouldnt fold the turn. Even if u loose u have enough chips to continue.
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

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just push pf.

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Why you wouldn't use the normal 3BB + 1BB for each limper rule in this hand? Is it the number of callers?

I think the preflop raise is ok. The flop is very scary but a contibet seems ok in position. On the turn you have the nutflushdraw and a gutshot, while against QJ you are drawing dead. I wouldnt fold the turn. Even if u loose u have enough chips to continue.

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you have to push pf b/c there is plenty of dead money in the pot to make coinflipping OK and raising + c-betting= pot committed which, as shown here, is bad.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:18 AM
misternils misternils is offline
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

Preflop:
Push, and pick up the pot right away.

Flop (in your case):
c/f, but c-betting also seems ok.

Turn (in your case):
Pot commited. Call and pray.
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

doc : 200 is not "plenty of dead money" when your stack is 2800ish.
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

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doc : 200 is not "plenty of dead money" when your stack is 2800ish.

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effective stacks are ~1900 though and the biggest stack of all the limpers is much smaller, and thats most likely where any callers will come from
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: Stars $27, I hate nearly everything about this hand

Why is there such a need to gamble on a coinflip this early on? Blinds aren't much of a factor here, there isn't THAT much money in the pot, yes, check folding sucks and is weak, but losing the majority of your stack sucks worse.

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