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Old 01-21-2007, 03:50 AM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default 10/20: River bluff?

SB is a 40/25 who isn't that great. He can be tricky but he just puts himself into too many bad spots pf and has been zigging when he should be zagging postflop. I would expect him to 3b just about an Ax pf, as well as any broadway and some random suited/trash.

UTG+1 is pretty much the reason to be in the game: 53/10, clueless basically.

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG, folds, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero...

I'm really not sure about that flop donk, no idea what it means. I decide I'm going to see if I can get to the river and obviously that turn card is awful.


River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero...

Pretty sure I can rule out an A from BB and UTG, but I really doubt I win by checking. Who bluffs here, and how spewy am I in general?
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

PS I know this hand is hard to comment on because its dynamics, texture, blah blah, but I really have no idea what to expect here. Its the hand from tonight I felt most lost during. So thanks for any help.
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Old 01-21-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

I don't really like the flop raise; I don't see what it accomplishes. Given how you have gotten to the river, I think the bluff is worth running provided the players can fold say a pair of 3s and K high.

I really think this is a hand where you can peel the flop and fold the turn unimproved.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

i wouldnt raise the flop and i wouldnt bluff the river against a calling station and a lag. btw, the lags flop donk means he has a pair or a draw. his subsequent action looks like he has a pair or a flush draw. i imagine you get looked up 100% of the time by a pair. i could be pessimistic tho.
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:54 PM
Evigt_Drabbad Evigt_Drabbad is offline
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

since u played bad on flop u can continue with it on river and try to bluff.. but its waste of money
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

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since u played bad on flop u can continue with it on river and try to bluff.. but its waste of money

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Old 01-21-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

I don't think you get looked up 100% of time, but definitely enough times to make this bluff a bad decision. It's a lag and a station!
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Old 01-21-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

I think there would have to magically be another 5BB in the pot for this to be good.
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Old 01-21-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

I know your question is on the river but that flop raise is really really bad...
peel flop and fold turn UI or just fold flop...
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Old 01-21-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: 10/20: River bluff?

I know it's annoying RDH, and it screams that he is betting 2 hearts, but I call the flop bet and fold the turn UI.

Let him take the small pots.

If, however, I'd had AJ or some other showdown hand I would have raised the flop and checked behind on the turn. Re-evaluate on the river but he is almost certain to lead and I would almost certainly just call - even if I hit my ace or jack.
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