Randy Moss to Packers????

[blackjack777]

Where do you put Moss in the order of best WR's right now in the NFL.

Me, honestly, outside the top 15.

I am curious if people disagree with me, if enough do, I will create a list.

[EvanJC]

its really hard to tell, since he hasn't tried in years. almost certainly not top 10, i dunno about top 15

[PokerFink]

WR I would want on my team over Randy Moss.

Branch, DJ Hackett, Darell Jackson
Harrison, Wayne (can I count Dallas Clark?)
Johnson, Housh
Fitzgerald, Boldin
Owens, Glenn
Reggie Brown, Stallworth
Cotchery, Coles
Berrian, Muhammed
Lee Evans
Roy Williams
Colston
Santana Moss
Steve Smith
Walker
Holt
Driver
Andre Johnson
Burress

That's 27...

[Victor]

ward
braylon
chris henry
furrey
chambers
galloway
clayton
bryant johnson
keyshaun
booker
kennison
holmes
jennings

and of course Troy Brown (Hall of Fame)

[PokerFink]

Ward - how did I forget him? 28
Keyshawn - 29
Braylon - 30

Troy Brown - no, age
Galloway - no, age
Kennison - no, age
Chambers - no (seriously... worst DPAR in the entire league this year by FAR)

The others are all pretty meh. I don't think I'd take them over Randy.

[Victor]

fink, chambers can play. his stats suck bc his qb and offense was terrible.

[PokerFink]

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fink, chambers can play. his stats suck bc his qb and offense was terrible.

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Chambers' QB and offense were still better than Moss'.

<u>2006 DVOA</u>
Moss: -14% (68th)
Chambers: -34% (81)

Compared to their teamates:

Curry: 14% (20)
Madsen: -9% (NA)
Moss: -14% (68)
Whitted: -37% (82)
Morant: -69% (NA)

Booker: 14% (22)
Hagan: 3% (NA)
Welker: 0% (47)
Chambers: -34% (81)

<u>2005 DVOA</u>
Moss: 5% (36)
Chambers: -11% (73)

<u>2004 DVOA</u>
Moss: 24% (15)
Chambers: -9% (63)

Chambers might have gotten a raw deal as the #1 WR on Miami, but I see nothing to suggest he's better than Moss.

[blackjack777]

Wow, I expected to get ripped for saying that Moss wasn't in the top 15, but you guys agree.

Although a couple of those guys are sketchy.

[Victor]

fink, i dont care what stats you put out there. ive watched enough of both of them play and i would take chambers by a mile.

[Jeff W]

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fink, chambers can play. his stats suck bc his qb and offense was terrible.

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I don't buy it. Chambers was terrible even compared to the other players on the Dolphins.

155 Targets, 59 Catches, 677 Yards
38.1% Catch Rate, 4.42 Yards/Target

Dolphins Passing Game for passes not thrown to Chambers:
283/435, 2900 Yards
65% Completion Rate, 6.67 Yards/Attempt

Chambers is terrible. He's the worst full time WR starter in the league.