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Old 01-18-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default i\'m supposed to fold teh turn, right?

when i rr the flop i told myself if he comes over the top i have to fold. i talked myself into a call. he's 17/9/5.6 over ~300 hands


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Blinds: $1/$2
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $180
CO: $260
faded: $264.75
SB: $215.90
BB: $546.65

Pre-flop: (5 players) faded is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">faded raises to $9</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($28, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">faded bets $19</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $60</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">faded raises to $155</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $537.65</font>, <font color="#cc0000">faded calls all-in $100.75</font>.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:34 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: i\'m supposed to fold teh turn, right?

I would just call BB's c-r.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:35 PM
DaCooler DaCooler is offline
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Default Re: i\'m supposed to fold teh turn, right?

how can you fold for 100 more after youve put in 160 with top two
you have 6 outs

I think your 3 bet made it a call
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:36 PM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Default Re: i\'m supposed to fold teh turn, right?

Call the C/R intending on doing what on turn?

Also, I am glad to see that youve changed your avatar Jay.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:37 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: i\'m supposed to fold teh turn, right?

How do we have 6 outs?
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:55 PM
z28dreams z28dreams is offline
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Default Re: i\'m supposed to fold teh turn, right?

As played, you probably have to call because of your re-reraise.

The pot is about $300 and it's $100 to call. Given his stats and the fact that this is 1/2, he's probably not doing this with an overpair.

From pokerstove:
We're about 20%/80% against: QQ,99-88,AhQh,Ah9h,Ah8h,JTs,7h6h

So, If we call pot is about $400, and we'd be expected to win around 1/5(400) or $80, which is more than the $100 to call.

It's close, but I think this is a fold.

If you include 98o+98s in his range, however, this is a call. (34% equity = $136)

If you include ONLY 98s plus the above hands, we have 25% equity, and it's almost completely neutral EV.

Edit: It's probably also worthwhile to note that QQ is probably less likely because he would reraise, esp. from the big blind. He only has a 9pfr #, so he's probably not reraising 99-TT from the BB.

Rerunning the numbers without QQ make very little difference. The biggest read here is if he'll play 98o/98s to a raise from the blinds.

If yes, this is a call. If no, this is a fold.

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