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Old 01-13-2007, 08:15 PM
moneyshot moneyshot is offline
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Default Re: 500/1000 stars

Agree with DD. flop dont only makes sense if you are going to 3-bet.
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: 500/1000 stars

flop donk is good though, if you are planning to three bet, right?
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 500/1000 stars

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Also, i would only donk the flop if i intended to 3 bet a raise.


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I would also donk the flop if intended to call the flop raise, check-raise any turn and bet nearly every river (sometimes give up or check if catch a pair).
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Old 01-14-2007, 02:59 PM
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i like a river check/call instead of leading out when the board pairs.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:50 AM
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i like a river check/call instead of leading out when the board pairs.

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wouldn't this be really weak?
till his river raise villain could have everything ^^

so izi bet/call river.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: 500/1000 stars

you have to lead the river and you have to call his raise, he is a maniac, but even against a tighty this is prolly a call.
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Old 01-16-2007, 08:43 AM
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you have to lead the river and you have to call his raise, he is a maniac, but even against a tighty this is prolly a call.

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he doesn't appear to be as much of a maniac on turn/river. given the 4 bets on the turn, you'll almost always get a bet out of him on the river no matter what it is, however, he may be far more likely to only raise if you're beat when you bet (many more ways that can happen if the board pairs). if it pairs the board c/c. if it falls blank, bet call. anybody 3 bet if he raises again and it blanks off? i see nor eason to w/o a read better than mine (which is 2nd-playing- and some 1st hand-watching not playing.)

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Old 01-17-2007, 02:46 AM
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outcome?
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Old 01-17-2007, 05:26 PM
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You could have folded preflop. Should you have? It's close, and Qx suited is often a blind defence headsup.
Anyway, I would have slowed down on the turn and just check/called on the river.
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:32 PM
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Agree I could have folded preflop, but i didnt. Agree the donk bet on the flop looks horrible, but that is another conversation.

Was curious to see if anybody possibly finds a fold on the river. 100% agree with Barron's post, and his river gameplan. I definitely misplayed this river. Luckily I didn't compound my mistake to lead with a second mistake.

My first instinct was to lay it down against the river raise. Once the turn is capped...I'm thinking set, at a minimum. the river is horrible for me. When he raises that river card, i'm beat most of time.

Luckily for me, this was an exception. I called the river raise, he had 2-red kings.

In hindsight, I think he actually played it well. His play came very close into forcing me into a very bad mistake on the river. I probably fold that spot enough to make the river raise profitable over the long-haul.
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