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Old 01-16-2007, 04:03 PM
UtzChips UtzChips is offline
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Default Short Stacked UTG w/44

Will you go all in at a full table with 44 with my stack size? I was hoping the size of my stack would chase weak aces, KQ,QJs, maybe even 55 or 66 out of the hand, unless they are a large/short stack themselves.
What do you think?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t630)
CO (t2875)
Button (t3655)
SB (t12625)
BB (t5650)
Hero (t2435)
UTG+1 (t9135)
MP1 (t2780)
MP2 (t1145)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2410</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB calls t2310, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t4920) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t4920) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t4920) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t4920
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

This is a fold. There is now way that this is a +ev push.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

Yeah, I think this is a fold. You're interested in making a move soon, but you're not desperate. I don't see why pushing this UTG is necessary. On the button, it's a slightly more defensible play, but I still would probably just make it 2.5-3X the BB there. UTG, I'd dump it quickly.
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

this hand is an insta-fold IMO
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

Fold and wait for better spot. 8 left to act after you. If someone calls ur likely beat. You have 10 BB left. No need to rush
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:01 AM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

[ QUOTE ]
This is a fold. There is now way that this is a +ev push.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you sure?
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

I agree with Worldclass "no way +ev."

Without plugging in the numbers i am guessing this is true.
Hero is risking 2435 vs 8 random, unknown stacks to gain 300.
He actually has a total 12BB left and under no immediate pressure
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

I think I start shoving there with &lt;T1500 or maybe &lt;T1800 if blinds become 200/400 soon, and raise 3x there if i have T6000 or more?
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:46 AM
Supwithbates Supwithbates is offline
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

I agree that it's a fold UTG, but I think it's probably a +EV push OTB against most reasonable villains with average stacks. Personally I'd push 44 in about 75-80% of situations OTB, basically every time unless I had a horrible image, blinds were uberdonkloose, or if either of the blinds were really big stacked and I was less likely to have fold equity against flips. It also makes a huge difference if there is the 25 ante or not.
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: Short Stacked UTG w/44

ez fold
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