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Old 01-14-2007, 01:37 AM
Moneyline Moneyline is offline
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Default small flopped top pair vs. an army of callers

Bellagio 15/30 9 handed

EP and MP are loose passive. SB is a slightly loose/slightly passive mope, and BB is a TAG who plays poorly postflop.

EP limps, MP limps, I limp on button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] , SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: 5 3 2 (5 players, 5 SBs)

SB bets, all call to me, I call.

Turn: 9 (5 players, 5 BBs)

SB bets, all fold to me, I raise, SB calls.

River: K (h/u 9 BBs)

SB checks, I check.
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:12 AM
Carmine Carmine is offline
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Default Re: small flopped top pair vs. an army of callers

Did you post this hand because you knew that when you made the FSD raise on the turn that "this player" never bets a draw/worse hand into a 5 player field(twice). You also knew that "this player" never folds a better hand.

This might be one of those spots where folding > calling > raising. This assumes we have a decent handle on how our villian plays.
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: small flopped top pair vs. an army of callers

Turn raise was pretty unnecessary, particularly given our description (your hand isn't a favorite here and he's not folding anything to your raise). Folding would be terrble, so I think you have a pretty easy calldown.
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: small flopped top pair vs. an army of callers

I don't think calling down is the best alternative.There's a very decent chance that your hand is best,& it's vulnerable,so it seems best to raise either the flop or turn.
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: small flopped top pair vs. an army of callers

Arg... twoplustwo kept timing out when i posted this, which had the result of erasing the suits when I recopied it. Anyway, here's the hand with the suits.

EP and MP are loose passive. SB is a slightly loose/slightly passive mope, and BB is a TAG who plays poorly postflop.

EP limps, MP limps, I limp on button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] , SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players, 5 SBs)

SB bets, all call to me, I call.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players, 5 BBs)

SB bets, all fold to me, I raise, SB calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (h/u 9 BBs)

SB checks, I check.
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: small flopped top pair vs. an army of callers

Aside from limping with 85s its standard to me
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