100NL - time to fold KK pf against a fish?

[Mossberg]

Villain is 51/1/1 over 280 hands. I just can't feel good about folding KK preflop...

Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $34
UTG+1: $48.68
CO: $158.45
Button: $61
Hero: $97.40
BB: $189.92

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $154.45</font>, Hero ???

[LuckyDevil]

I'm never folding KK preflop for 100BB stacks.

[Redd]

Bleh, I guess I'd fold it unless I had seen him call-reraise before.

[FishRoller]

Whoa if he's a fish get it in there for 75BB's - he could easily have middle pockets or like AJs. If he rele cold called the preflop raise from UTG+1 w/ AA, then hats off to him for gettin lucky to find someone who picked up a hand to repop original raiser- NEVER fold this IMO.

[ZingyDNA]

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Bleh, I guess I'd fold it unless I had seen him call-reraise before.

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Did u misread the hand or something?

[morphball]

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Villain is 51/1/1 over 280 hands. I just can't feel good about folding KK preflop...

Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $34
UTG+1: $48.68
CO: $158.45
Button: $61
Hero: $97.40
BB: $189.92

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $154.45</font>, Hero ???

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See how he cold calls, and then shoves? Only an exceptional fish will do this with AA, and even then it's usually by accident. I wouldn't feel good about the fold either.

Normally a fish does this when he feels you have been too aggressive preflop, and he is trying to take a stand in his fishy way. A good question is what do you need to call here, I would think, for these stacks TT+,AQs+ &amp; AKo.

[Redd]

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Bleh, I guess I'd fold it unless I had seen him call-reraise before.

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Did u misread the hand or something?

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If that's a sarcastic 2+2ism, it's not helpful.

I'm confused. This guy has a 1% pfr over a decent enough hand sample that his real pfr is probably not more than 2.5%. Against anyone else, I see that this is a v. standard call, but is this guy really the type to 'take a stand' with a crappy hand? He's gotta be making a move here (vs. a slowplayed monster) almost half the time for us to call it.

If this is an easy call, how deep do the stacks need to be before you would fold it?

[beardedwhale]

Fold. The guy's raised like 3 times in 280 hands.

[sigurrostyp]

call

[Esperante]

poooosh moss.

smellmuth would agree [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]