squeeze gone very wrong vs a moron

[G_Dollaz]

I have $194 left on the river. Villian is 56/2/1.5 through 80 hands, no other reads b/c I'm 11 tabling....


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $427.70
UTG+1: $471
CO: $392
Button: $1097.10
SB: $151.90
Hero: $422

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $14</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $82</font>, UTG+1 folds, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($192, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $146</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($484, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($484, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $240</font>, <font color="#cc0000">

[yvesaint]

meh against this guy i would have just shoved the turn

[G_Dollaz]

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meh against this guy i would have just shoved the turn

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for value or as a bluff?

[yvesaint]

value

however i prob would have bet less on the flop

as for the river....i have no clue wtf to do.

[venom007]

For value on the turn is pretty thin, hes not going to call a shove if he doesnt have anything....why this guy is flat calling the flop is beyond me-- if he had something theres really no raeson for him to not shove.....No hand is strong enough on that flop to not shove (i.e. JJ,1010, AcQc, AcKc)-- this hand is just weird-- he sucks at poker obvioulsy and therefore I dont know what to do and would probably shove turn as well, although c/c river is not too shabby-- this hand really smells of a moron who doesnt know how to play AcQc or AcKc.

[yanfu]

He's got 22-99, QJ-AK.
Call.

[Isura]

I check flop. That's what I'd do here when I have air and get caught, or sometimes with AA-KK to trap the donk. River is a pretty easy call IMO.

[yvesaint]

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For value on the turn is pretty thin, hes not going to call a shove if he doesnt have anything....why this guy is flat calling the flop is beyond me-- if he had something theres really no raeson for him to not shove.....No hand is strong enough on that flop to not shove (i.e. JJ,1010, AcQc, AcKc)-- this hand is just weird-- he sucks at poker obvioulsy and therefore I dont know what to do and would probably shove turn as well, although c/c river is not too shabby-- this hand really smells of a moron who doesnt know how to play AcQc or AcKc.

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a 56/2/1.5 who calls this pf like that is not folding 99 to a flop bet here

thus i shove turn for value

[G_Dollaz]

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I check flop. That's what I'd do here when I have air and get caught, or sometimes with AA-KK to trap the donk. River is a pretty easy call IMO.

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well the thing is I don't have total air, I may very well be ahead of him on the flop.... I probably would c/f here if I had like 96 or something, I felt like I needed to protect my hand though, didn't want to give a free card w/ all those draws out there, am I wrong?

[cero_z]

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For value on the turn is pretty thin, hes not going to call a shove if he doesnt have anything....why this guy is flat calling the flop is beyond me--

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Huh? He's calling the flop because it's WHAT HE DOES. The guy is 56/2 pre-flop. He's a stone cold station. Shove the turn for value, and get called by a J, a T, an open-ended straight draw, and maybe some underpairs. idk what 1.5 AF means, but if the guy is as passive as most super-stations, I guess you fold. If he has normal post-flop aggression for these stakes, then call. I would've bet the river for value as well, though, if I'd checked the turn.